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A study over here has said we will have social distancing until a vaccine is found

 

Problem is the media have whipped the public into such a frenzy at the mere mention of the word 'lockdown' that any mention of lifting of restrictions is met with howls of derision. Lord help you if stifle a cough in a public place or sit down on a patch of grass in a park, you're a potential murderer to the fear crazed.

 

So at 69 you are free to do as you please, and at 70 you are old, decrepit, and forced to be housebound ???

Bullshit

Guidance please, not compulsion

 

Given the fact that people are scared to even go to work it is going to be hard to convince people to attend a football match.
Of course before it is allowed to resume stringent measures will be in place and then it will be up to the individual whatever age or for that matter state of health to decide if they want to go.

 

I would need special treatment

That's right, i'm either 69 or 71 depending what rules are in force...!!

 

The problem stems from ford's own insecurity he is scared of anything over 3ft and over 70.

 

I read that the average football ground seat is around 22 inches (55cm) wide. Have a think about it. That seems about right to me. If that is the case and I want someone to sit at least two metres away then there would need to be a 4 seat gap. That means 1 in 5 seats taken up in each occupied row. Not 1 in 3. So already we are down to 20%.

It has been suggested earlier that we need to leave at every second row empty. Think about how far away the one in front of that actually is. I would be surprised if you could keep two metres away even on the next row down but go with that. We're down to 20% on each row and now we have taken every second row out. That means we're at a maximum capacity of 10%. A long way off 25%.

That was just a number plucked out of the air by a politician. If we want to get 25% into stadiums then the government is going to have to change the two metre rule. Otherwise forget it.

It sounds like I am being negative. I want football to start again. I want people to be able to go to the match but there needs to be a lot more thought going into it before it can happen.

 

As we're all one big Bantams family no need for restrictions then...!!

 

But the vast majority (95%+) of those were compromised. Only about 500 each of age 60-79 and age 80+ Covid-19 deaths so far were uncompromised people in English hospitals. Over 80s Covid-19 deaths were actually only 448 healthy people (4%). 13,360 (96%) were compromised. In an average year about 11% of over 80s die in the UK. That's around 350,000 people! That puts the Covid-19 numbers into context.

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http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163445313003733

Should we force them to hide if they don't want to? The healthy are still obviously at a much much bigger risk from other things at that age than from Covid-19 - slipping on ice, falling down stairs, slipping in the shower, food poisoning, suicide, flu, stroke, infected scratch. Everything is dangerous at that age. Give them a break! Why should we force them to have miserable lives in hiding if the hospitals are doing okay? Is that why they suffered in WWII - so younger people could tell them they can't go see a football club they've followed all their lives? Nobody has enjoyed lockdown recently yet some young want to force old to stay because it's dangerous outside? Let healthy of any age in at their own risk. It barely registers as additional risk for healthy over 80s when so many will die from other stuff anyway. Advise the compromised not to attend - but even the over 80s compromised deaths with Covid-19 in English hospitals so far is still only around 4% of the total UK deaths in that age group each year. So long as hospitals can cope and there is no escalation in general infections that poses a rising threat to others, let old people have some pleasure if they wish. Let them meet their friends and have pint and a laugh. Just make it clear that the club is not liable for the result of any infection even if you could find some way of proving it. The UK suicide rate for over 70s is up 6-fold in lockdown. We need to start living again instead of worrying too much about dying.

 

Will you resign from here because you have been banging on about it for months

 

I can't read the full article but does it state that the numbers allowed into the various stadiums will not be 70 years of age or over ?.

 

Don't see any problem with distancing. Just tell anyone who asks you've driven 260 miles to get here and you've come to check your eyes before risking driving back. Easy innit.

 

Didn't realise i sat near you Tony .

 

For the last 17 days and their borders staying shut.

Most MP's trying to open ours...nuts!

 

I think your right until people are reassured they are safe they will be reticent to enter football grounds

 

And clearly not viable outside of the premiership.