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We don’t want anything anti-german. It’d be even more damaging. It’d distort our whole concern into a race thing. It isn’t.

It doesn’t matter where he’s from.

It matters that he’s a deluded individual who’s ruining the club.

 

There won't be a protest now for the forseeable - and rightly so - lets see how it works out with Hopkin, but lets not pretend there was never an issue and we the team were simply just not playing very well.

there was a big problem, there was a clear reason why Grayson decided to leave and had no other job lined up. There's a reason James Mason left, despite being in his dream job. there's a reason it took us seven weeks in the summer and nobody wanted the job - there's a reason the players stopped playing in January onwards, and there's a reason why John Hendrie wants nothing to do with the club anymore - there's a reason Colin Doyle was as surprised as anyone to find the new deal he'd been promised never materialised, there's a reason Matt Killgallon is no longer a Bradford City player - and it's not because him or Doyle weren't good enough anymore, and there's a reason Sky TV were forced to pull rank and insist their choice of pundit would indeed cover a game at VP last season.

that reason is, you don't need me to tell you, Edin Rahic.

but, Hopkin is no nonsense, and i can't imagine he's been working under a 'head coach' set up at Livingston - maybe, just maybe, we are seeing change, and dare i say it, humility from Rahic?
I'm optimistic about the appointment, on the face of it, it looks as if something has changed since the summer - lets hope Hopkin has had assurances about things are going to be run around the club now - we can only wait and see.

 

blimey. that's a minute or so of my life I want back.
I haven't read quite so much nonsense in many a year.

 

I was one who was willing to put money into the plane fund, and I stand by it at the time. To be honest I can't remember if I've ever said Edin or the Germans out etc. I abstained from the vote on the pinned thread as we were given no alternatives, for all we know we could end up with the local cab firm. However reading and hearing about things over the last 18 months(some will be true, some won't), has got me concerned enough to feel we need to at least let the owners know you can't behave like this, if all the talk of protest and unrest has any way forced their hand into sacking Collins and bringing Hopkin in then everyone's done a good job as far as I'm concerned. It was a damn right irresponsible appointment for a professional club to make.

The biggest concerns for me were:

• Wanting a manager sacked after just reaching a playoff final, there is no sensible reasoning for this at all. Then not having the bottle to sack him, so not giving him full backing in the summer window, again damn right irresponsible of a leader of a professional club.
• James Mason leaving his dream job, don't know the ins and outs, but I know he wouldn't leave with out reason, especially without a better job lined up ala Baldwin.
• And finally the appointment of Michael Collins, don't think I need to go into detail on why that was a cluster feck do I.

That said I don't think any banners or protests are right or fair at the Charlton game considering it will be Hopkin's first home game in charge. Regardless of off field issues the team and coaching staff need our support and nobody wants to lose our League 1 status regardless of thoughts on Rahic. It doesn't mean that talks of protest won't come up in the future, although I hope they don't as it will mean the club is getting into a more harmonious state.

For those who are labeling people Rahic outers or whatever and are defending him to the hilt, take a minute to remember only an idiot is not open to changing a point of view. A while ago I may have defended Rahic, but his actions have made that untenable at the moment, that said it doesn't mean he can't turn me around. It's nothing to do with being fickle, just listening to all views and been willing to accept you're wrong. Try it sometime, instead of digging a bigger whole.

 

Taken from another poster (Thanks @Frank Castle)

"if you got home to find your wife half naked and a bloke hiding in the wardrobe, and she told you she'd spilt a drink on her top and the guy was only there because he was fixing the clothes rail, would you be so gullible?"

This is you Norman. It doesn't matter how obvious something is, you'll always ask for hard evidence as a way to deny what everyone else already knows.

Seriously, how do you get through life by being so naive?

 

Not the time for a protest when we've just got a new coach and the players are low on confidence (putting aside their obvious flaws). Just get down there and support the team on the pitch, they're the only ones who can get us points.

 

Just to be clear it certainly isn't a threat. It's a reference to the handful of supporters who, throughout the last 12 months especially have belittled those who've spoken out against the way the club is being run into the ground and who even now, either refuse to see the reality of what we've become - or worse, continue to do Edin's bidding. Those people will have no basis to complain when we do eventually bottom out.

I'm more than happy for a moderator t add these comments to the original post to remove any ambiguity, if it exists.

This is a football forum. I'll happily debate with anyone who has any opinion, and I'm happy to banter. But I wouldn't threaten or personally insult anyone intentionally.

 

When Lawn and Rhodes said that financially they couldn't take us further I would say even the most negative of fans was fairly optimistic that the partnership of Rupp and Rahic would take us to the next level. And with a reputed offer of between and £5 and 6 million from the Germans it seemed they were serious in their quest to take us to the next level. What has transpired is somewhat different. Its not really a partnership as such, more Stefan Rupp funding the wet dream and vanity project of Edin Rahic. And unfortunately, as part of that dream, Edin wants a say in what goes on the pitch.
The brutal reality is this is Edin's last throw of the dice. If Hopkin fails, this ship is going down. You can forget your three year plans and your development squads, its back to the khazi league. 5 years of progress gone, spunked away on some mad real life version of championship manager. Difference being, on Championship manager you can just switch the laptop off and start again.
So the ball is in your court Mr Rahic. Because i ain't watching league 2 football next whether we get relegated or not.

 

What is not recognised by yourself and others, is that the anger, anxiety and sadness of our current state has poured out onto social media. This has not happened in isolation of what has been happening at the club. I would like you to explain to me what fake news has been sucked up by fans and influenced their perception?

I am not embarrassed to be a fan of city.
I am embarrassed that our club is being dragged through the gutter.
I am embarrassed that our club’s conduct with staff is now national news
I am embarrassed that our success over the last few years has been thrown away under the heading of progress
I am embarrassed and upset that we can’t enjoy watching our team, but are being forced to take on board the stuff behind the scenes
I am embarrassed that simple commmunication and connection with the fans has also been thrown away.

I could go on, I am not a happy Bantam, in all honesty I cannot remember feeling like this before. It saddens me that fans are divided. It seems our family club is a distant memory, I feel sad for the players and managers that have to try and play football in this toxic atmosphere.

 

He should be sacked now whilst the transfer window is still open

 

This sort of post should warrant a warning in my view, and has no place in the discussion.

Terms like EDL and racism are entirely unwarranted.

Shame on the poster.

 

It’s no way racist , people throw that word about without even thinking about it. Ffs

 

I think the time has come to protest.

For the good of the club we need Edin gone.

 

Racist, and xenophobic. these terms are coming up more and more often now, and the reason is because the happy clappers are quickly running out of reasoned responses and sensible defences to whats going on so theyre left to resort to this to try and discredit people.

 

I disagree, I don't think they'd have brought in players like Scannell, O'Donnell and Doyle if that were the case. They could have easily brought in more crap from the German leagues or released kids.

It boils down to incompetence, and a strategy which any decent manager/coach is unwilling to work under. Not a financial issue.

 

I agree. I honestly don't think its a problem. They are going out for a leaving do with a guy that has obviously become a friend as well as their manager. and it's not because its McCall I feel this, I wasn't Phil Parkinson's biggest fan but I wouldn't have gone apeshit had his players taken him out for a meal after he resigned.

it's nothing but a petty stupid grudge from a small minded egomaniac,with a hugely inflated sense of his own importance.

 

I’m accusing that particular poster as a fan due to his history of posting, not just from this one post (which has confirmed my suspicions).

Bringing the 56 into this debate is very tasteless and I’m not sure any real City fan would do it.

If people want to protest, so be it, but suggesting to do it on the 56th minute is absurd.

 

Well making things up in this atmosphere will happen. What concerns me most and doesn’t bother you is that how you treat ppl who did work for the club does have repercussions in the here and now. Even if the employee has done something wrong and probably deserves a termination of their contract, you still give ppl respect, it matters because how you treat ppl is the very fabric of any business and even more so when it is a football club.

I and my husband have supported city since the 1960’s. Never before have I heard my husband as he did on Monday say that he did not want to go to the match on Saturday. I was shocked, we have seen everything that has happened to the club over the years. I am hoping he will change his mind, but he is convinced that the owners are ripping the club apart. So yes I do understand why you too might also be wondering why you are spending money and time going.

So we have deep seated anger amongst fans across the board. Cutting Edin some slack may well mask what is going on. He needs to come out of that office and talk to the fans in a straightforward manner, not lie to us, or try and unload his own responsibility onto others. He needs to stop trying to shut ppl up. We can’t solve this enormous problem by hiding or ignoring it. The manager and players need to be protected as much as possible from this awful toxic atmosphere. It feels to me like a relationship where both parties neither like or trust each other. I am not sure it can be repaired.

 

Don't let the minority bring race, brexit, Tommy Robinson or any irrelevant garbage into the conversation.

They only do it to distract people from the real issue because they have nothing else to say, unfortunately.

 

I actually like them more because they are German ! And because of the fact they are German I'm suprised by how shambolic it's all become ? Not exactly been "vorsprung durch technik" this far has it ?