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If..Doyle goes big mistake

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Lancaster Bantam, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. How

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    Written off after one game.

    Phenomenal
     
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  2. JudgeMental

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    Not written off just an observation.
    No improvement from last season by either of them, perhaps I should wear your rose tinted glasses.
     
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  3. JonButterfield

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    Where do I insult you?

    Your first post to me was deliberately antagonistic, and your second post moreso.

    I have called some of your posts bizarre and others unbelievable at times, but I'm not sure I ever tried to make any debate personal.

    Anyway, I don't really care, but surely you have to accept you were being deliberately antagonistic like you were trying to start an argument.
     
  4. Park bantam

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    i said Doyle would do well playing as an out and out striker not advanced midfielder as for Anderson I fully stick by what I said. He was the ball winner and we had 61% possession which fell away when he went off even though Cambridge were down to ten men
     
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  5. Mickey bantam

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    I agree and I’m sorry if my comments offended you. There is to much of this bickering and personal attacks at posters just because they don’t agree with certain comments or are losing a debate. It is time folk started to get along and if there is a personal attack or certain posters been aimed at then the mods need to do their jobs and start dishing out bans. Apologies again if it seems I was just aiming this at you :)
     
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    Amusing but unsurprising
     
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  7. bantam2708

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    Anderson has been shite since he got here to be fair.
     
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  8. punk bantam

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    I didn't think Doyle was any good last ssn but he was up top on his own usually feeding off scraps so benefit of the doubt but yesterday. I just don't see the justification for him being in the team. Hugely disappointing team performance and result yesterday and lots of work to be done by everyone.
     
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  9. Edinho1

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    Anderson was no better or worse than anybody else!
     
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  10. JonButterfield

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    Genuinely thought he was, strolling back like Josh Wright and misplacing pass after pass.
     
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  11. BoingBoing

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    Firstly, I didn’t accuse you of insulting me. I said there were a lot of insults being thrown around (not by you), but not a peep was said about them, even though there are many on here that are quick to jump on folk for name-calling.

    Admittedly my first comment to you was terse, but ‘antagonistic’? I’m sick of the quips about Doyle being expected to play any role a forward player plays. It’s like saying we should stick Donaldson on the wing. But when I mentioned this, you than became more argumentative back. Phrases such as “What are you talking about” and “What a bizarre rant.....”.

    So yes, I gave you a little dig back. But again, was it antagonistic, or an OTT dig?
    I apologise if I overstepped the mark, especially with the first comment, but I’m tired of people expecting a player to do a job they are not equipped to do, and then criticising those that defend that player for this reason.
     
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    But it was aimed at me Mickey. Your post to me was very specific that I had overstepped the mark by posting the remark to Jon (which TBF you probably had a point).

    The bit I don’t get is why my remark was seen as argumentative and out of order, BUT not one person was criticised for calling Fordy a d1ck. and all the other names thrown at him.

    I accept the apologies although they aren’t necessary mate.
    ;)
     
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  13. BoingBoing

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    I think this is spot on. Doyle has been given the benefit of doubt because we were woeful last season and never played to his strengths. He still managed double figures though.

    But, he is now 3rd choice for our front line. Donaldson and Vaughan have the shirts and they are theirs to lose. If Vaughan gets suspended or injured or simply loses form, then Doyle gets his chance up top alongside Donaldson. That’s when he has to prove his worth IMO.

    He must never be played in the no10 role again as it’s like playing with 10 men
     
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  14. YungNath

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    Doyle was awful. I don't know what him being out of position has to do with shanking it every time he tried to kick it anywhere and falling over constantly. If we're gonna play that formation I'd rather we play McCartan just behind. He was the absolute weak link for us and it wasn't to do with him being out of position, he was just crap.
     
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  15. Bigrod

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    Doyle should not have started yesterday. It looks like we are playing him, because we are reputedly paying him lots of money, rather than based on his contributions to the team. Apart from solid penalties, l struggle to see what he offers.
    Perhaps playing him as a sole target man, or a deep lying number 10, isn’t his game. It may well be that if he plays alongside Donaldson or Vaughan, then he could become an effective striker, however his opportunities would be restricted to coming on as a substitute, or if one of them was injured or suspended. Starting with three strikers and Doyle ‘out of position’, on the evidence so far, simply is not working.
    I agree that he is:
    • Not Fast
    • Cannot carry the ball effectively
    • Doesn’t beat defenders
    • Doesn’t win Headers
    • Fails to make challenges
    • Times his runs poorly
    • On the evidence has ceased to score goals.
    Frankly he is no longer a potent threat, and given how he plays and where he is told to play, there is virtually no evidence that he will have some form of Renaissance.

    This thread has deteriorated into a lot of bickering rather than a debate about whether he goes or not. For the avoidance of doubt, l think we could do better and would not be sorry to see him go!
     
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    Agree with the majority of this, especially the opening comments. I think your summary of his attributes is a tad unfair though. Personally, I have seen him make decent runs and win headers.

    But let’s be honest, when was the last time we had a regular supply of crosses into the box, especially at a height where players can attack them. I agree that he shouldn’t start, but I still believe that if played up top alongside Donaldson or even Vaughan, with crosses coming into the box, he will score goals.
     
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  17. simons (woking bantam)

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    Yup Boing, I did say Fordy was being a dick but apologised for this and to him that same evening as soon as I got home - to be honest I only meant I felt the thread he started questioning GB on the first day of the season was behaving like a dick, not Fordy personally! ;)
     
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  18. BoingBoing

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    Not having a go at you for it. Whether you meant to call him it or not, is between you, Fordy and the Mods. The point I was making is that not one person picked you up on it (and let’s be fair, you weren’t alone), but as soon as I farted, people were up in arms about how much my posting style destroys this site.
     
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  19. simons (woking bantam)

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    I dont think I am usually too antagonistic so perhaps I was given a first strike?! :rolleyes: I think Saturday night brought out a lot of frustrations, for the simple reason we were for the first time in ages expecting a little more
     
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  20. YungNath

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    Maybe do less smelly ones next time then!
     
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