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  1. JonButterfield

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    What do you mean, we stayed up?
     
  2. Stafford Bantam

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    Shielding, for me, ends when I say it does.:mask:<--2m-->:mask:<--2m-->:mask:<--2m-->:mask:<--2m-->:mask:
     
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  3. Bantamsteve

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    You need medical assistance mate
     
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  4. Dennis

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    That's a surprise. You've said repeatedly that you'll be back in your seat at VP in September watching the games again. It looks like you've transformed into a PL following glory hunter or worse! ;)
     
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  5. shoatsy

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    You'll disagree with whatever happens, you always do! I'm quite chilled out .
    I'll attend games I'm allowed to attend, I'll watch the others on Ifollow .
    I'll buy a season ticket when they're available.
    I'll sit where I'm told too .
    And I'm not arsed what they do with mine and my 2 sons remaining season ticket money.
    I'll enjoy watching everyone else kick off if that's what's gonna happen .
    These are exceptional circumstances what will be will be
     
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  6. Bantamsteve

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    Imagine a cardboard cut out of Fordys face
    Wonder if it would still spout the same nonsense :eek2::eek2::eek2:
     
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  7. JonButterfield

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    Yes.

    No question it will start next season.
     
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  8. Aaron Baker

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    TV money will fall for lower league clubs. If the top leagues get more air time then people will clearly watch that instead.

    In terms of the infection rate. Who knows. But I don't see why it would fall over such a relatively short amount of time.

    If anything I expect the infection rate to increase as more and more people understandably push for freedom.

    The bail out is the only thing that will make it happen. However from everything I've seen so far the people with cash couldn't give a shit about league 2.
     
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  9. Aaron Baker

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    Hold on.

    Just explain this to me. We've been in lockdown for 10 weeks, I've barely seen another soul. This has caused the infection rate to drop.

    So as we all see more people going forward.....you expect the infection rate to continue to fall? How?

    That doesn't make any sense. There are people out there still carrying the virus and they will bump into more people than they would have done 3 weeks ago.

    To me that looks like a recipe for infections to increase not decrease?
     
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  10. Park bantam

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    I suggested the same thing except it should be a merger between league one and two regionalised it makes sense
     
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  11. trevor

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    One option for league 2 next season is to play it behind closed doors with every game televised on iview or similar, A home season ticket costing around £250 and a full one both home and away costing around £450 ( which is a lot cheaper than travelling and tickets )

    With advertising etc it may bring in the same amount of income for each club and may increase the "attendances" for the many supporters who are unable to get to games yet support the club,
    If organised correctly and announced early enough it could solve the next season problem
     
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  12. king karl

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    Cant see a pass for ifollow benefiting the club

    If theres 6 friends buy current season tickets then one bloke is gunna buy the ifollow pass and rest watch at his house

    Only benefit is saving your seat for when we can watch live
     
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  13. SimonW

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    Most of the PL clubs don’t make a profit and that will be even more of the case without people in stadiums. A season with no fans will reduce revenues for Man Utd by £110m for league games alone while having most of the costs. It would probably be better for clubs to actually play matches at the training ground but I doubt TV would be happy with that. So it’s not like there is this massive pot of money that can be given out.

    And even if there was the PL already gives the EFL a massive amount. £265mill last season was paid in parachute payments split between 8 clubs and the £106m was given in solidarity payments with each championship club getting £4.65m, league 1 £700k and league 2 £470k. The EFL only give out £88m for the TV deal split between the 72 clubs. Are the EFL teams going to generally use it to improve their setup or are they just going to throw more money at players and then plead poverty to the PL again in a few years asking for more? People can have an issue with Salford but one thing you can’t be critical of them about is the way for anything they put into the first team they are putting just as much into improving the infrastructure to allow them to improve the players they have better and it’s something so much of the EFL has forgotten about.

    So if any more money is given by the PL it has to be on the understanding that it’s not just going to pay players (The average wage in league 2 is apparently £1,500 a week which is ridiculous). There needs some to be ringfenced for improving clubs especially on the 'development' side. We need lower leagues to be producing better players which will help supply chain of players up the leagues and we need the general level of football to be more technical so we also provide more opportunities for young players released by higher clubs a chance as right now the style differences can make it very tough for players to adjust having spent their key development years learning a more technical way. Teams looking down the leagues more rather than go abroad is good for the lower leagues as it means more money coming down to help financially.

    Mind you English sides do have a problem the foreign clubs often don’t have and that’s land. We are a small country with a massive demand for land for housing while having a ridiculous amount of football teams let alone other sports. So just having the land to improving training and medical facilities can be expensive where as in other countries that are larger but with similar or smaller populations land is much cheaper. It might need cooperation between teams and maybe even between sports (could for example City, PA and say Bradford Bulls share training facilities) so that costs are shared.

    Either that or partnerships with bigger PL and Championship teams. For example let’s say City did a deal with Man Utd and Utd would send coaches to spend some time working with you and your coaches spending time at Utd. And where your teams could go and use Carrington and your injured players could use the Utd medical facilities and recuperation facilities. It could reduce some of your costs, help improve your coaches and your players. It might also make both the PL teams willing to send players on loan and make them a better fit for the team they are going on loan from. Maybe then we will get away from the kind of managers we have seen you have recently where their only tactic is playing long ball even if your striker is Bilbo Baggins.

    Unfortunately what will most likely happen is PL clubs will be guilted into giving more and the EFL clubs will use the money as safety net that allows them to stand still by blowing it in overpaid players of limited ability and the gap will get bigger and the EFL becomes even less of an asset in improving the overall quality of English football when it should be an integral part.
     
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  14. Park bantam

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    Let’s face it if the premiership restarts it won’t be for football reasons it will be entirely for financial purposes. Professional sport needs an audience
     
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  15. Faithful Bantam

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    Merging L2 and the NL would be another nail in our coffin.
     
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  16. Dennis

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    It certainly would be and not just ours.
     
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  17. How

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    Great post and you’ve put it better than I ever could but that’s my thoughts on it all.

    One other point which maybe slightly related but the top clubs stockpiling players has to stop and the league need to introduce something to put an end to it when we are going to have a lot less money in the game. Take Man U as an example they have Joel Perriera who is about 4th choice keeper and has been on loan season after season and has no chance of getting in the Man U tram with Henderson coming back too. What good is that doing keeping him on probs around 20k a week and never playing? Not sure how you could enforce it but the reason top clubs don’t want to send players to the lower leagues anymore is because they want a big portion towards wages, playing or not. The Peterborough chairman has talked about it too. Nothing to do with the quality of it all
     
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  18. Dennis

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    Who's said that salary caps can't be introduced?

    They are used in other sports and in the EFL, a form of collective salary cap is used in the EFL's FFP system for Div 1 and 2. I might add that it is a highly flawed system in the EFL and needs to be tightened up considerably to make it effective!
     
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  19. Aaron Baker

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    There is not a hope in hell that Mason Greenwood was being considered as a potential loanee to League 2! I must have read that wrong surely?
     
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    And the PL haven't? When you have kids of 18/19 that are on in excess of £20k a week and never likely to see the first team and lord knows how many players on over £100k a week...If they are getting £2bn in TV rights over 3 years is it, all the multi million pound sponsorship deals...and they are still complaining that they don't have any money..who really is wasting the money.
     
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