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Labour wanted, earlier, longer and harder lockdowns. Every time there’s a break in the cycle and Labour come to power, they worsen the debt position of the country by pouring money we don’t have into public services. Soft on defence, crime, immigration.

The labour leader doesn’t even seem to know what a woman is.

Not that I have any faith in any politician or political party at this point. They’re all a waste of space, and symbolic of the decline in western society.

 

Unfortunately we have left it too late to leave. We have grandchildren who are now grown up or nearly there. I would really miss them if we took off abroad somewhere. I most certainly do not blame anyone for exploring options and deciding to leave. I feel like an alien in my own country. Apparently because I have a state pension I am burden. I have worked since the age of 15, and retired at 65. The latter part of my career I worked freelance. I am still paying tax, but nobody wants to acknowledge this fact.

The prospect of voting is sickening tbh. I have always voted, but the choices that are before me fill me with dread. I am now contemplating spoiling my ballot paper.

 

Labour need to go back to the drawing board Bronco. They also need to work out what the ordinary man and women in the street want from government, not what Labour think is best for them.

 

It looks like Labour will get trashed as the results role in, but the Labour party needs to rid itself of all these far left MPs who seem to be happy with the current results as it gets them to claim Corbyn wasn't the problem as Corbyn held the Hartlepool seat (even though he lost 60 other seats we can brush over that).

 

Bang on that. If your whole campaigns revolve around trying to discredit your enemies for being liars and cheats prepare for the fact you'll probably never win. Because most of the electorate realise politics is institutionalised in its lying and cheating.

 

Labour party suffering from 'Long Corbyn' LOL...

 

You want to know why people vote Conservative, the above is your answer. It doesn't matter how much the likes O'Brien, Jones, Ash Sarkar, the weird EU bloke out side westminster with a loudhailer and the many more like them shout and stomp their feet, i can guarantee you the vast majority of people in this country, the same sort of people like you and me on here, do not share the same views. The very same people who genuinely care about each other without getting down on one knee in some sort of virtual signalling gesture, the sort who abhor violence whether it be against women, men, emergency services and the like.
I mentioned on here some time back that Labour were just as responsible for the problems people were having a go at the tories for. And do you know what? I was damn right. I don't vote, haven't done since i was 18, and the once for brexit. But if i was made to choose between the only two real options i would vote conservative every time. Because labour are a joke.

 

Said with a passion I think we all share...

 

I watched some of the shitshow yesterday, i didn't know wether to laugh or cry. They are literally been given assist after assist by the most imcompetent government on record only to continually hit the ball over the bar, just like watching our attackers at City. They could rip the government apart on topics such as Covid, benefit cuts, brexit, logistic failures, not fit for purpose track and trace the list goes on, and yet they're banging out who does or doesn't have a cervix or making comments about too many white men putting their hands up to ask questions FFS. And don't get me started on the 'comrade' bollocks. A party so out of touch with the real world and first world problems, they're an embarrassment to this country.

 

Starmer and Labour showing a 10 point lead.

Let's not beat about the bush, this is not due to Starmers leadership, it's Boris's lack of.

 

This is the problem for Starmer. They bounce around in the polls on the back of what the Tories do but over time and with the more people listen to what they're actually saying it drifts away again. If they're going to stick with the line of making Johnson look bad to the electorate they need to figure out a way off making people not just Anti-Boris but actually pro-Labour. They need to offer something too.

 

I usually have an based opinion on most things but I'll be honest I'm lost as to what is happening in the world right now and moreso the UK. Looking at a job in little Germany, just seems to Africans moping around ( and what a shithole little Germany is), walk down into Centenary square for a coffee and its just full of deadbeats, open drugdealing and drug taking, people pissed asleep on the verges at dinner time, items of clothing from shops being sold to others, clearly stolen. And not a cop in sight. And that's just local, across the UK rhetoric and narratives aplay, public services falling apart, the most pathetic set of MPs I could ever have the displeasure of seeing, cost of living going through the roof. It's a very strange time to be alive, I know we can see things through rose tinted specs with a bit of nostalgia thrown in but I can't say I've ever seen the world like this. Maybe just me seeing the world different in my old age but it seems the what I remember from years ago, values of respect and a degree of honestly seem to have decreased alarmingly.
I'm not sure where as a society we are going.

 

Suella has made Mad Nads look sane.
Absolutely ripped him a new one and confirmed what alot of us already knew. He will say anything and promise anything just to get himself the top job.

Tories are heading to complete oblivion with Sunak in charge. A snap poll shows then 30 points down after this cabinet reshuffle.

350+ MPs and he needs to go outside that to find a Foreign Secretary and he has no prisons minister.

A shitshow doesn't even cover what the party is these days.

 

It's kind of a weird idea that you need to vote for something you don't believe in occasionally because change is good.

I agree with your characterisation of the Tory party and that's exactly where the years of caving to pressure on any difficult to explain issue has got them.

Unless something incredible happens I probably will vote Labour in the next GE - if I vote at all - but i dont half wish it didn’t feel like the scene from The Simpsons

 

Just quoting a couple of newspaper articles Tarty. I personally cannot see it happening at all for either.

I've never known British and American politics to be as bad as it is now, and that means both main parties in each country.

Cannot see myself voting next general election, for the first time ever.

 

Sunak uses this line quite often whilst overlooking over 100k of "illegal immigrants" entered the country last year and a further 750k were waved in with visas. They don't care, infact it's only an issue for them now because they are losing votes to Reform.

Everyone in the UK is paying more in light and heat costs since power companies were given the green light to raise costs since 1st January meanwhile Sunak hands out £2.5bn to Ukraine and sees Tata steel announce closure 4 months after handing them £1bn. It's amazing how some people can't be helped but Sunak has billions to throw at others.

 

From my time working with and training on mental health issues, one thing I’ve learned is that the way people express/exhibit mental distress varies historically, geographically and culturally. The norms of mental distress change over time - women no longer have ‘fits of the vapours’ as they did in Victorian times. People in South Asia tend to experience what we would call depression in more physical ways than us, such as stomach and chest pains. There is also a strong copycat element to it. The incidence of bulimia in Hong Kong - previously very rare - went through the roof when Princess Diana’s eating issues were plastered all over the world’s press. And remember that spate of youngsters, in a small area of South Wales, hanging themselves some years ago? Stopped as suddenly as it started.

I do believe that there exists a very small percentage of people with genuine body dysmorphia - ie they feel from childhood that they are in the wrong gendered body. But what we are seeing now is well beyond that. The numbers of teenagers claiming to be trans has rocketed in recent years, beyond anything seen before.

It’s undeniable that levels of mental distress amongst teens is currently very high, due to various factors, not least the pernicious effects of social media. I firmly believe that we are going through a historical phase where the unconsciously ‘fashionable’ way of expressing mental distress is through gender confusion. I don’t for one moment believe that all of these recent trans cases are genuinely gender dysmorphic and I’m convinced that most of them are mixed up, confused kids who will grow out of it. For that reason, I’m strongly against the idea of early hormone treatment and, especially, surgery. I believe that most of those railing against the unfairness of not being allowed hormones or surgery will later be grateful they weren’t given it.

 

When mixed up kids are given subjects that will mix them up even more, what's going to happen? This notion of gender identity is guaranteed to appeal to someone who is struggling with themselves and the pressures of changing into an adult. It just lights a very dangerous fire. It's so sad for these kids that such influential media personalities are able to almost indoctrinate these kids and confuse them even more.

 

I find Galloway an opportunist, divisive and to be honest, I’m not even sure he actually believes everything he says he stands for. I was working in Batley when he was standing in the Batley and Spen by-election, his campaign office was an and old shut bar/nightclub round the corner from where I worked. He obviously lost, but he left the place a shit tip, just upped and left when campaigning was over. I think that’s similar to his politics, doesn’t really give a shit about the local area, takes a big dump and leaves…He’s a fantastic speaker and campaigner, but an absolute w****r.