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The Sky News coverage from the week is unintentionally hilarious. They keep talking about "Far Right" this and "Far Right" that but basically every time they cut to an outside broadcast it's Asian youths in masks tooling themselves up with weapons. How about reporting what's happening rather than picking a narrative and sticking with it?

 

Starmer is actually unintentionally hilarious.

Defending a stay costing 20k at another of Lord Waheed Alli's flats hes said.....

"We had lots of journalists outside our house, but if you're a 16-year-old trying to do your GCSEs, your one chance in life, I promised him we would move somewhere. "Somebody then offered me accommodation where we could do that, and I took it up. And it was the right thing to do. It didn't cost the taxpayer a penny."

"His one chance in life"

The prime ministers son. Who's father is a multi-millionaire. Who can just get him into a quiet 20k flat so he can properly revise.

Oh yeah....I can imagine if he got a couple of D's in his GCSEs his life would be in ruins mate. Straight down the coal mines for you dear boy.

 

Quite funny how the usual suspects on social media doubled down on their mantra after Labour's terrible results. Even now they cry the same take and churn out the same rhetoric, buzzwords like gammon and racist, Brexit gets a mention every other paragraph. When will they realise what most peoples priorities are, employment in a pandemic era, a better health and education service, better funding of the justice system rather than everyone on the side of the criminals because despite all the shite posted on social media or the crap spouted by political commentators about institutionalised this and that, this country is still a great place to live and work. Compared to other countries the vast majority of us still live by good moral core values. Now there's a clue for you Labour, concentrate on what really matters to people. If you really are serious about getting into power.

 

Gaza nor Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with local politics in this country, making it a big deal for local council elections sets a worrying precedent.

 

And what's all this about wanting to scrap the two child benefit cap? You want more kids you bloody pay for them.

 

Oh, that's the thing that was missing in the earlier videos!! And as @Rogered Tart correctly perceived was missing in Harehills too.

So does anyone still want to tell me that we don't have two tier policing in this country.

With Jess Phillips tweeting excuses and telling us that a "duck is not a duck" when a mob show up on the street and Starmer only standing up in front of the nation when the "EDL" are on the streets, does anyone want to tell me that we don't have two tier politics as well?

In just one week the politicians and media have basically shown everything they were accused of the be true.

 

Fantastic post. Spot on.

And I'd strongly disagree that the recent riots were driven by far right ideology. Of course, there'll have been some far right thugs there, but to my mind the disturbance was a fury driven response to the horrific stabbings in Southport, which served as the spark to ignite underlying, genuine (and valid in my mind) concerns about mass and uncontrolled illegal immigration, the changing landscape of the country and how that's being impacted by the former, and the increasingly obvious, 2 tier and ideological approach to politics and policing.

 

Another prime example right here.

How it was...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67194035

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jul/07/uk-will-press-for-job-promises-in-return-for-port-talbot-investment

Aa a general point...The nonsense deindustrialisation of this country is a shame that will never be recovered from. 50 years ago the closing of the coal mines was a national disgrace that brought about strikes. Now the end of coal usage is something we celebrate.

Now nearly 5,000 people are going to lose their jobs over the next year in communities with no other heavy industry around due to the green agenda. When really it's no greener on a global scale as the work that was previously done here is still being done elsewhere in the world. All this nonsense about being a green super power is yet more politicians peddling easy answers that affect the lives of normal people.

 

You might be missing the point a tiny bit though.

There's no doubt that Gaza/Israel is one of the biggest international issues of our time.....but should it really be the deciding factor in local councillor elections in some Northern England areas under the guise of the "Green" party?

 

The Europeans also end up with wildly undemocratic results though. Look at France where a right of centre party will likely be the biggest but the other two parties will likely collaborate together so that they can't get many changes through.

PR ends up with smaller parties usually being 'kingmakers' and having disproportionate amounts of power where FPP ends up with the largest party usually having a disproportionate amount of seats. There isn't a voting system that provides true proportionality and also the opportunity for the ruling party to elicit the change they were voted in to do. At least in the current system the largest party gets the opportunity to makes the changes that they were voted in on.

 

Surely it's time for Parliament to stop having massive recess etc over the course of the year. Parliament was dissolved for the election back in June, stood for two week and hasn't been back since and doesn't actually sit again till September.

The country was in a right state, and it still is in a right state and to think that for the last two months only two weeks parliament has sat suggests that the required time isn't being put in to sort things out.

We've had Civil unrest, Riots, more murders and stabbings in such a short period that I can remember, literally every day you hear something now. Energy prices are going back up, jails are full,etc.

The election period should have been offset by the current recess rather than have parliament shut down for both periods.

Most MPs since elected have been on holiday longer than they have been working.

 

Do you see what you're describing?

Do you see that you're describing a situation where the danger of the crimes and the severity of the offences take a back seat to the prescribed ideology behind them? You're describing a situation where outwardly similar instances of rioting are treated differently because of the beliefs and rationale of the people involved and more severe crimes are pushed to the back burner while people involved in lesser crimes are prioritised.

Do you know what people would call that? They would likely call it a two tier system. You're basically defining it.

Now if you're fine with that then that's okay, but own it. Say that you like having a system that works in this way and accept that is what our country has become. Don't tell people who see exactly the same thing as you do, but don't view it positively that it doesn't exist.

And that's if you even accept that these things were "far right" since very few of the people prosecuted seem to hold any sort of strong political views except being sick (rightly or wrongly) of the effects of immigration on their communities and the unwillingness of anyone in power to actually listen or act on their legitimate concerns.

 

Kier doing another fine job of showing that all politicians are the same.

£75k for a shopping spree for Mrs Starmer, from the donor who mysteriously got a No 10 pass. £75k they weren't sure whether they initially needed to declare.

 

When you have run an election campaign based not on attacking policies but attacking character you had better make sure you have a closet that is squeaky clean. Always the problem when you try and take the moral highground only to have your backstory ripped apart.

 

I don't dislike Starmer, infact I think with him in charge I would be more likely to vote for them since the days they were in power. However with the party within a party of people like Abbott, Buttler, Long-Bailey, Burgon, etc they simply are unelectable.

The fact the left are celebrating the Hartlepool by election with the same glee as the Tories are for winning it tells you all you need to know about Labours problems.

Whoever decided that a pro EU, second referendum remainer was the best choice for an area who were touching 70% leave in the referendum needs sacking.

 

The greatest shame is their is no genuine opposition to go against the government.

 

It's time for the EU to feck off, their socialist global view is why the UK voted for brexit and why the far right are getting in in parts of Europe. They've brought it on themselves and idiots like this guy are clueless to what the average person thinks. It's a bit like with Lenin over 100 years ago, think they know what's best for everyone and try force their own views on them, but European nations will fight back for more than the Russian population did. The EU should have just been a free trade agreement and military alliance (although that's not needed with NATO) and nothing else, no bureaucracy involved and Europe would be in a much better state.

 

Galloway losing Rochdale a couple of months after winning it is one of the funniest things i've ever seen in politics, reminiscent of his time in Bradford West. The man is an odious little shitbag and everything wrong with politics in this country.