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  1. Rogered Tart

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    Quite funny how the usual suspects on social media doubled down on their mantra after Labour's terrible results. Even now they cry the same take and churn out the same rhetoric, buzzwords like gammon and racist, Brexit gets a mention every other paragraph. When will they realise what most peoples priorities are, employment in a pandemic era, a better health and education service, better funding of the justice system rather than everyone on the side of the criminals because despite all the shite posted on social media or the crap spouted by political commentators about institutionalised this and that, this country is still a great place to live and work. Compared to other countries the vast majority of us still live by good moral core values. Now there's a clue for you Labour, concentrate on what really matters to people. If you really are serious about getting into power.
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    Gaza nor Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with local politics in this country, making it a big deal for local council elections sets a worrying precedent.
     
  3. Aaron Baker

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    You might be missing the point a tiny bit though.

    There's no doubt that Gaza/Israel is one of the biggest international issues of our time.....but should it really be the deciding factor in local councillor elections in some Northern England areas under the guise of the "Green" party?
     
  4. Edin Nowhere

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    I don't dislike Starmer, infact I think with him in charge I would be more likely to vote for them since the days they were in power. However with the party within a party of people like Abbott, Buttler, Long-Bailey, Burgon, etc they simply are unelectable.

    The fact the left are celebrating the Hartlepool by election with the same glee as the Tories are for winning it tells you all you need to know about Labours problems.

    Whoever decided that a pro EU, second referendum remainer was the best choice for an area who were touching 70% leave in the referendum needs sacking.
     
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    The greatest shame is their is no genuine opposition to go against the government.
     
  6. Tony Wilkinson

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    Think this comment says it all.................

    The Labour activists, the extremists, that have dragged Labour to the abyss still can't see how they, and not Starmer, have made their party unelectable. A party that hates its country is in turn hated by the silent majority that hold ALL the keys. Go woke, go broke. The advertisers on TV need to heed what is happening.
     
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  7. Rogered Tart

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    Blair played the game better than anyone, he even duped the electorate into believing they were voting Labour when in essence they were voting for Tory lite because Blair understood you cannot get elected by following the socialist mantra. Deep down people are worried about their jobs, their everyday life whereas as Labour seem more intent to listen to irrelwlevant halfwits on social media like Owen Jones. Jones like Corbyn have never done a day's work in their life, true Labour supporters do not relate to those sort of people. The problem for Labour is not Keir Starmer, its their whole approach to politics.
     
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    I love the way the commentators are asky why no one votes Labour lol. Johnson doesn't even have to run a campaign or even turn up. Labour would beat themselves in an empty room.
     
  9. Rogered Tart

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    I'm keeping out of the political debate now. Not because of anything written here, I've enjoyed the chat but because I personally cannot do anything about the corrupt political system we live under so I might as well talk bollox about summat else. I've realised the more I keep my nose out of it the less angry I get. That every penny I pay in tax in my life time won't even touch the sides of Boris Johnsons wallpaper grift or Angela Raynor's second home.
    Always look after number one and your loved ones and fukc the system.
     
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    There's a lack of honesty and reality within the Corbynista parts of the Labour party. I heard Diane Abbott make the same point earlier saying that Corbyn had won the Hartlepool constituency in 2019. Therefore the failure to win it yesterday is the responsibility of Starmer. The reality was that in 2019, the Brexit party won an enormous number of votes and many of these came from previous Tory voters which resulted in a split in the Tory vote. Without that split, the Tory party would have won Hartlepool comfortably in 2019. It appears the Brexit party voters have now returned to their natural home demonstrating that split in 2019.

    If they are ever to have a major place in UK politics again, the Labour party has to get real. Whatever individuals might think of the Labour party, our political system needs a strong and viable opposition which can hold the Govt to account; and we don't have one at the moment.
     
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    Most of Britain I.e working/middle class want a relatively simple life, home in a decent enough area where their windows won’t get smashed in, job security and maybe a holiday or two a year. Labour in recent times seem to have targeted the far left and students who go on pro eu/equal rights for gender neutral rallies etc. They are nowhere near a majority, going to Glastonbury you won’t find what the majority of Britain want. It is a moderate thinking country and always will be, Blair is the only Labour voter in my lifetime to truly know how to reach out to this crowd and as you say play the game properly.

    Some left wingers seem to be happy with this result but they’re more bothered about making Labour into a political statement than winning anything. Another sad day for politics. They won’t take any responsibility when Johnson can just run riot unchallenged.
     
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    Apparently spending 4 years implying that people are racist/stupid and then pushing for the country to be locked down more forcefully isn't a vote winner. Who knew?

    The problem fot Kier is that for all his forensic personna he's fallen into the same old trap. He's trying to play "gotcha" politics to get headlines but they're on topics that just don't resonate with people. His whole campaign seems to be based around trying to prove that politicians lie, but people already know this!! You have to prove that the lies actually have some impact on people's lives for it to be meaningful. Who paid for Johnsons wallpaper is not going to decide a single vote.

    It's moved Labour from being the party of the working people to being the party of negativity and moaning. There's no actual ideas and no plan. Just sniping at everything after the event.
     
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    They're completely out of touch with the day to day concerns of the working classes. They've become obsessed with in fighting and virtue signalling woke warriorism.
     
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    Anyone who thinks that Jews and Irish people haven't or don't experience racism is talking nonsense. Comparing it to prejudice against people with ginger hair is insulting. There's no doubt that Diane Abbott has been subjected to a lot of unfounded racist abuse over the years, but that's no excuse for such insensitivity.
    Diane Abbott should resign immediately. She won't do that, but I think it's highly unlikely we'll see her standing as a Labour MP at the next general election.
     
  17. Edin Nowhere

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    Which room is that? The room where people are taking 2 years to see a doctor? The room where people are paying hundreds extra on their mortgage? The room where people see their schools being closed because they are falling down?

    The reason the Tories are so dire in the polls is because no everyone sees the boats as the number 1 problem, which was actually caused by this government in the first instance anyhow so it's a case of expecting them to fix something they broke.
     
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    Seems we can only afford a tax cut for the ultra rich by cutting benefits for the poor to pay for them, Good to see good old Tory beliefs returning to the party
     
  19. Rogered Tart

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    Just because he has different views to others doesn't make Farage dumb. Quite the opposite, that he managed to take on the EU almost single handedly and effectively got what he was arguing for. Don't confuse that with Brexit itself, that never had a chance of working due to incompetence from those instigating it.
    Just walked out the jungle over a million richer and to the lefties dismay, his persona stronger than when he went in.
     
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    So what's happened to these people? Has their asylum been granted? I haven't heard about anyone being deported.

    Everyone's gas and electric was raised in the middle of winter yesterday but instead Sunak would rather peddle lies like this instead.
     
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