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Let's not be silly, there are potential buyers out there if the price is right. Unfortunately there isn't anyone that would be stupid enough as Rupp to pay what Rupp did.

Let's forget this idea that he's somehow doing us a favour being here. He isn't. This club was a league one playoff club before him and his dodgy mate turned up.
He owes us big time.

 

If I were him, I'd evaluate their position like this: If T&S were out of contract in the summer, would I give them a new deal? I imagine the answer Ryan would come up with would be no. In which case he should make a change.

 

Imagine he sticks with them. And their first 10 games next season are like the last 10. They'd have to go, but then Sparks would be under huge pressure for taking them into the season. It'd lead to another wasted season

 

We should have known how it was going to end up with how we approached the salary cap rumours at the beginning of the season. A farce from beginning to end.

 

I hope so, however, hopefully they stay and return to the youth team set up, they at least deserve that

 

6 defeats in 5 games takes some doing!

 

I don't think the majority are overly fickle. The fans weren't asking for the axe to fall on Parkinson when the team went on an extended winless run. Because he'd built up a lot of support prior to that.

Regardless of whoever's in charge, both performances and results over the last couple of months would put any manager under pressure. The difference between the present incumbents and someone like Parkinson, is the period when the team was getting results wasn't that long and we have no evidence that shows them capable of turning these displays around and building for the future.


If T&S had some prior experience that showed that their coaching methods and team building strategies ultimately worked, but it could be a rocky road on the way to that happening. I'd be more in favour of giving them time. But from what I've seen, it's not just the results that are dire, the performances are approaching what we saw towards the end of McCall's reign. Plus, the dressing room doesn't appear to be a cohesive and positive environment to work in at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if some players are possibly questioning whether the management duo are up to the job. Which is far more toxic than it just being the supporters.

When you put all that together. I'm far from convinced that they can form a competitive squad for next season. Letting them continue and it not working out when the window's closed and the money's been spent could see the club flirting even closer to the armageddon of non-league next season if those at the top aren't careful in my opinion.

 

It wouldn't be a sacking really. I'd imagine they'll go back to their previous roles - they'll take with them good experience of the last 6 months, they'll have earned a few quid in the process and what we've done over the last 6 months will at least show that we're prepared to look from within to give people opportunities. They'd be disappointed, but there's a positive angle all round.

 

Hes an appaling manager still living off that one success with Watford. His performance with the u21s has been terrible in the last few tournaments and its amazing he lasted that long. A firm no.

 

I see how you're conveniently leaving out the point about him winning the league last season and getting 25 goals out of Eoin Doyle in 29 games. The defensive, one up front bastard....

 

Love the fact that it’s states not inviting applicants!!! So someone lined up already

 

We can all guess what the RC stands for.

 

I find it staggering that we should even be having a conversation about T&S's future.
A few short months ago we were languishing at the foot of the league. Today we're still in with a shout at making the play-offs. In the time since they've taken charge they've transformed a schizophrenic team into a solid and well disciplined unit that has one of the best records in the league. By and large, they've done this by putting square pegs into square holes.
They ruthlessly got rid of the dead wood in the January transfer window and along with our new Head of Recruitment brought in some decent players. Not the basement-bucket types we've had in the last few windows.
Okay, we still might not be banging in the goals for fun and performances have fallen off from the high of a few weeks ago, but despite this, they've proved themselves by overcoming obstacles that previous, more experienced, managers have failed to solve - coming from behind in a game, bouncing back from a defeat and stopping the rot in a run of poor performances. They've also outwitted more experienced opposition managers time and again this season.
We're not the finished article, but we have a solid base to build from in the summer and with further changes in the backroom set-up (as mentioned by Ryan), coupled with our improved recruitment process, I'm genuinely optimistic about where we can go with this management team.

 

With respect Wilsden it’s fans that demand that the club change managers. The directors then panic, especially with social media the way it is. Look at Bowyer a decent man and a decent manager, had us in the top 4 around the half way point and then after a few poor performances the mob turned and Rhodes panicked and brought his old favourite back with disastrous results. The reason the club is mid table at the moment is not down to the current regime but that disastrous decision a year ago. Trueman and Sellars have done wonders, but as soon as a few poor results happen, the mob will start again and pressure will mount. You can almost smell the rumblings after a poor display on Saturday despite winning, and a few defeats as this season comes to a close will bring the usual suspects out in force. I just hope Sparks remains strong when we hit a bad patch and not change managers like there going out of style.

 

Rotherham got back out of L2 at the 6th attempt. Luton and Donny both spent 5 years each in the conference. Not particularly instant turnarounds. T&S have had a few weeks and it's not happening quick enough for some. What does Rcbantam expect if we get shot of them now? The whole club suddenly shifts into overdrive and we start rising like a helium balloon? Constantly changing the captain won't get the ship round any quicker.

 

Totally right Petrov, we should all just get behind our two young coaches - they deserve it for what they have achieved to date. Yes they have made mistakes (who doesn't?) and they need to progress our style of play but with a good summer we should be in a stronger position. None of us can truly predict how things will go next season as there are no guarantees in football but T&S warrant our full support to do the best job they can

 

It's a big call from a new CEO and shows an attitude that he isnt happy with what he has seen lately. Impressive because the buck stops with him, its the sort of comment I want to see from my CEO, it puts out a clear message to the players that anyone underperforming will be replaced in the summer. Players been told they are playing for their futures.

 

'I thought we performed well and were the better team for long periods of the game'

Oh dear.

'We have played like we did today in the past and won matches'.

Thats true. And therein lies the problem. I think that statement is very telling....

 

I'm not a habitual 'sack the manager' type but my patience finally snapped last night. I appreciate these guys are rookies (and didn't have a problem with them replacing Stuart) but the sight of them stood there with their arms folded in 'job done, we avoided relegation' mode made me glad I didn't have an old-fashioned TV screen. With less than half a game to save our season, it needed action. Instead we got the same inaction as recent games. except this time it really was last chance saloon, nothing less than 3 points could keep our faint chances alive. To a man/woman, the fans would have preferred to see us go for it - a 0-3 defeat would have been no worse than a draw: absolutely nothing to lose. But our attacking threat was increased by bringing on a striker in stoppage time, wowza. I care little how much of a sulker Rowe may be, we bought him (yes, bought, with money) to score goals, something he can't do when he's getting splinters in his arse.

T&S did a good job when they took over, maybe there was some luck, and to be fair I would imagine most people could have improved on the mess that Stuart had us in. To their great credit they changed the formation and found us a 'new' player in Cooke. And yes that was our best January in living memory, though in Stuart's defence he'd got Rowe as a target too. We successfully cleared out some dead wood and there's no denying we were all pleased with the incomings, though really only Cook and Canavan (and Crankshaw to a degree) improved things. Presumably much of this activity was in any case behind the scenes work rather than T&S's, which is fair enough, increasingly that's how it seems to work these days.

Truth is we were safe from relegation many weeks ago, and that is the point where things seemed to change for the worse. We could see the play-offs as a realistic hope, given we were within one win of them and the general poor standard of the league. Yet, worryingly, various post-match interviews gleaned no apparent interest in such a possibility. Again, it smacked of 'job done'. Ryan Sparks appears a well-motivated, well-balanced guy, and whilst I wouldn't want him to turn into a Rahic, presumably he too must see that T&S's refusal to consider alternative tactics (rash things like playing two strikers at home to a poor team, for example) was crippling our hopes - maybe a quiet word would have helped?

Overall City are a lower leagues club with no right to expect top-end football, and unlike a lot of the 'yoof' on social media I don't have unrealistic expectations for us, but for me the experiment has failed - the mess we're in in the bottom half of the fourth division means we're in no position to nursemaid two rookies. These guys need replacing by a proper manager, today, ideally. And although Jose (!!) or even Wilder might be beyond us, maybe a Wellens type might be the answer. In fact if available they can start today and get a feel of things for the last four games of a dead season.

 

Thinking back, what have been our best performances under T&S? I'd say:

The draw away to Crawley - purely for spirit and resilience
Winning 1-0 at home to Cambridge
The wins at Grimsby and Tranmere
The 2-0 win at Cheltenham
The 4-1 at home to FGR

The first 4 of those 6 came in the immediate aftermath of their interim appointment and before our January recruitment. Those performances COULD have been largely down to a new manager bounce and all that comes with it.

How many of our performances over the last 3 months have actually been convincing? How much of our January recruitment has really made an impact?