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  1. Dennis

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    Is your expectation of T&S's future based on anything other than the manager of a team we beat today and who might well be attempting to cover his own ar$e with his club on the verge of being relegated to the National League?

    Today's performance was a poor one. But how have you factored in their track record of 45 points from 23 games, which is impressive by anybody's standard, into your expectation?
     
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    Some of the abuse the 2 lads received on Twatter was appalling, yet they still responded with dignity and thanked the supporters. Really wish some people would think about what they type before abusing 2 lads, who only did their best and saved us from the plunge. I wouldn’t be against them taking over in the future if they’re in and around the first team.
     
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    Well said. I find it remarkable some didn't enjoy the Parky era. The laughable thing is some are saying they wouldn't take him back when it would be very much Parky who would be doing us a favour. He wont comeback. He got Bolton up and you can forgive him what happened at a crisis club in Sunderland.

    The bloke is a City legend. Those who think otherwise must have just been stood in the bogs during the games when he was here. What I saw was a League Two promotion and a remarkable Capital One Cup run, as well as a good FA Cup run. We played it long at times, meh.

    They were golden years which will forever be looked back on fondly here.
     
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    And in the time purely of T&S only Cambridge have got more points from 2 games more! A win tonight will give exactly 2 pts per game for T&S.
    Yes Saturday was poor but we won missing players and under T&S have generated auto promotion form against what looked like auto relegation before and still whining occurs on here.
    Whether we make the ply offs or not the aims set back in December have been achieved, iFollow figures prove interest and support has been rekindled and the immediate future secured. Too much negativity in some areas, move on.
     
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    I know a few, just as keen on their club as you and I are on ours, I have family in Bristol and until recently my God Daughter was involved with both Rovers and Bristol RUFC who are owned by the Bristol C owner so I think I have some knowledge which agrees with some of their fans.
    As far as Sunderland I think they were 7/8 th when PP left and as said above they are the team in the poorest form currently which may underline my comments on Johnson, we shall see.
    As to the comments of you and Fordy, no, of course I'm not happy with where we are, who is?, sadly in 65+ years of support, apart from 5 or 6 we have always been what you and Fordy say 'a failing club'. Sadly that is a reflection of our City as a whole, low income, poor infrastructure, etc., etc. Which will only be remedied by massive investment in City and Club. Stefan has done more than most people know to keep us afloat but we need a Sunderland level of worth as owner or another two of Stefan's worth. If you know them get them involved.
    I know a few either with connections or direct and Bradford is not on their radar so we have to be realistic, back Ryan and Stefan, things are and will change hopefully for a lot better. I know the flak I've had for saying 5 years to get Rahic out of our blood but it's true in my opinion. That doesn't stop us getting on with improving and I'm sure we will.
     
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    That’s rubbish, at the end of June when AOC and Wood’s contracts expire, there will be only ROD left from the Rahic era. The fans, players, staff and everyone else associated with Bradford City need to stop blaming Edin Rahic for the predicament the club is in. The majority of the squad were signed whilst Julian Rhodes was CEO and McCall was manager. Different decisions last year, including the decision to hire McCall which I maintain was purely with an eye on ST sales, and this club could have been in the playoffs or automatic spots.

    Hiring McCall and signing Guthrie, Clarke, Samuels and Evans have had far bigger impact on this season than the actions of Rahic.

    In my opinion Julian Rhodes and Stuart McCall have a far bigger responsibility for this season’s failure to gain promotion than Rahic, it’s just far easier and more convenient for some to blame someone who hasn’t been at VP for over two years than look closer to home.

    It’s time to stop with the excuses and accept nothing less than the absolute best. Sparks seems to have that attitude.
     
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    This is exactly what concerns me Bronco. In his post match interview on Saturday, Connor spoke about being hungry for success but for me, that hasn't been evidenced this season. When you achieve what he and Mark did and an opportunity then opens up in front of you to truly exceed expectations, you don't just shut up shop and stick with your original remit if you are truly hungry for success. No, you grab that golden opportunity by the short and curlies and throw everything you've got at it. If we truly want success at this football club, we need winners, never give uppers, believers, willing to take a chancers, not overly cautious, play it safers, which unfortunately, is what it feels like we've had for the past couple of months. Carry that attitude forward into next season and it will mean only one thing. We won't be going up.
     
  8. Petrov

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    Fickle? What because we expect better than finishing in 15th in the khazi league?

    Take a look at the league table 3 months ago. On 6th February, we were in 19th place on 31 points. Bolton were a place below us in 20th, albeit on goal difference only but still, they were below us. Since then, Bolton have moved up 17 places and secured themselves automatic promotion, we've moved up 4 places and got absolutely nothing to show for it. Worse than that though, is that on the 6th February, Stevenage were 2 places below us on 26 points having played a game more. They finished the season ahead of us. A team that got relegated last season and only got reinstated because of what happened to Macclesfield, finished above us. Quite simply, that is not good enough, whoever the manager/s are, and it isn't fickle or disrespectful to be questioning whether T&S are the managers that can take us forward and have us challenging at the top end of the table next season.
     
  9. Fordy117

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    For me it's too late.

    I think the only answer is for Sparks to sack them both. It really is!

    When they took over from McCall the aim really was about gaining results to make sure we stay up. Performances don't really as such but when you think about it we were gaining the results by playing negative football. Sparks should have known this and only offered a contract until the end of the season to really find out what their management style is, how they want to play the game and how they connect with the fans but instead he acted like a fat kid in a sweet shop offering them an 18 month contract.

    Once safe the handbrake should have come off but it didn't and the jumping up & down for the Bolton draw as a disgrace.

    Last week when we are losing highlighted more than ever how negative T & S really are.

    I'm not convinced a negative manager(managers for us) can change into a positive/ attacking one or the other way round. Look at Jose for example.

    We need to get rid of these two and bring in a manager that plays the way the fans, Sparks wants and give us the best chance next season.
     
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    There's no point in sticking with the wrong manager just for the sake of continuity. They've come in, done the job they were required to do but you've got to evaluate whether or not they're capable of taking us to the next level. The only evidence we've got to judge it on is how the team performed in the playoff race. And we were abysmal. T&S have shown an unwillingness and inability to attack games and approach them in a positive manner. Sure, we need additions to the squad but to be still playing negative, defensive dross in dead rubbers shows me this is out of choice rather than necessity, so I'm not buying the argument that with better players everything is rosey.
     
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    Agree with the comments on the club reflecting the City as a whole.

    You’re closer to the financial detail than I am, but I’d challenge the idea of Stefan doing more than we’re aware of to keep us afloat. Or at least, if he has, its because he’s taken a forward moving, self sustaining club and turned into a regressing, loss making one. It’s on him, the buck stops there. His tenure has been a disaster, there’s no dressing it up.

    As for needing someone significantly more wealthy, again I disagree. Other clubs at this level manage to achieve a modicum of success without pumping in mega millions. A level of investment would certainly help, but you’re talking maybe 10-20m, properly invested to get this club knocking on the door of and maybe even consolidating in the championship. Rupp has that sort of wealth. It’s not the money that’s missing, its the interest, the vision and the capability.
     
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    Well how about failing to motivate a squad of players for the last 10 games. Thus meaning we failed to reach the playoffs. Is that a good enough reason?
    Or how about the awful awful football offered up? Is that good enough
     
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    I can 100% guarantee T&S will still be in “the big boys club” long after Grimsby have relieved Hurst of his managerial duties.
    Fair play, he’s done the management by numbers bit, made them hard to breakdown, toughened them up........blah blah......
    Not done brilliantly on the team bonding front it has to be said!!!!
    We had a bad day at the office and still came away with the win, bye bye Hurst, sorry you didn’t get the job you wanted, maybe you’ve found your level at Grimsby.
    As for T&S........onwards and upwards!!
     
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    I agree they deserve applause for the job they've done but the negative displays in the last 4 games has been borderline criminal.

    Yet again we're chasing the game, need a goal and leave two strikers on the bench and getting splinters until an enforced change in the final minutes of injury time.

    He even threw Paudie upfront ffs.
     
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    So as we sit and ponder yet another disappointing/ failed season what will realistically change to make sure in 12 months we’re in a better place?

    I’m struggling to see whatever the vision is meant to be.

    A young CEO who’s obsessed with reminding us how old he is. Talks a lot and to his credit, tries to make a positive spin but the jury is very definitely still out.

    An owner who might live on the moon for all we know.

    A management team that the majority don’t feel have the nous or tactical ability to move the club forward.

    Another huge clear out of players and a lack of faith that the next bunch will be any better.

    Not exactly looking good is it??
     
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    I admire your belief in the current set up and understand the point around being a laughing stock. The concern for me is that we ignore the form over the last 10 or more games, the lack of intent to win games, even when the chance to make the play offs was there, the lack of a plan b, the failure to recognise poor performances, the lack of goals, playing one up front, like for like subs, playing Evans when he offers very little, failing to experiment when all hope of promotion had gone, switching keepers because of the opponents, bizarre interviews and bringing in loanees and not using them. Apart from that, you believe its right that these 2 should carry the hopes of all City fans into next season.

    I'll concede there's no guarantee with any appointment but sticking with these guys is the biggest gamble we can make. We're still in decline and finishing in a worse position year on year. The margin for error is getting smaller. Start poorly next season and at what point do we replace them? If you analyse the performances no one outside the club would laugh if they were replaced. They tried and are failing.
     
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    Hurst is rapidly taking GT into the NL and you extol him as footballing guru. :joy:
     
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    Are you implying that the fans shouldn't be expecting improvements in our league position until those 5 years have elapsed?

    That could be a very difficult message to promote when ST'S go back on sale imo.
     
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    I hope that the fans acknowledge the really good job these two have done. Yes we didn't kick on as we approached the play offs but the overall job has been really good.

    If things change, it would be excellent to see positive acknowledgement at VP from the fans.

    They do deserve that.
     
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    I've seen enough - these aren't going to get us promoted. They were given deals too early, which is forgivable in the circumstances. But keeping them beyond this summer would lead to another wasted season.
     
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