T&S..... sacked

And in the time purely of T&S only Cambridge have got more points from 2 games more! A win tonight will give exactly 2 pts per game for T&S.
Yes Saturday was poor but we won missing players and under T&S have generated auto promotion form against what looked like auto relegation before and still whining occurs on here.
Whether we make the ply offs or not the aims set back in December have been achieved, iFollow figures prove interest and support has been rekindled and the immediate future secured. Too much negativity in some areas, move on.

 

Sorry Fordy, just testing the water (pardon the pun).

 

I'll contact you when we are allowed to travel south of the border.

 

God forbid Bradford City being mid table in the 4th division brings out negativity in fans after a poor performance against a team with 10 men bottom of the league. T & S have done brilliantly, however the club shouldn’t be where it is in the first place. Until the club stops going through managers like they’re going out of style, and the club shows it’s truly stable on and off the pitch then there will be negativity when we play poor.

If we get into the playoffs that’s some achievement by T & S, but not by the club. Pre season most would have agreed playoffs was an absolute minimum.

 

As I've said several times Wilsden, 5 years to get over Rahic and the damage, visible, invisible and financial.

 

How many years have passed already? But I see where Roger's original reply is coming from (I think) and for me, the negativity he mentioned us encapsulated in this thread title. My initial reaction on seeing the thread a few days back was in the ffs category. I took it as the o.p suggesting T&S were on borrowed time and, using Hurst's outburst to back it up, didn't know what they were doing. The points gained since they took over suggest that idea is nonsense. Now, to be a little negative, they are seemingly unsure of whether to play it safe ( what they have been doing, with a bloody good return so far) or maybe,as we would all like, go for it shit or bust style.
I suspect the cautious approach will stay in place but seriously hope that during the summer they reassess their strategy and try to play more on the front foot.

 

I find it staggering that we should even be having a conversation about T&S's future.
A few short months ago we were languishing at the foot of the league. Today we're still in with a shout at making the play-offs. In the time since they've taken charge they've transformed a schizophrenic team into a solid and well disciplined unit that has one of the best records in the league. By and large, they've done this by putting square pegs into square holes.
They ruthlessly got rid of the dead wood in the January transfer window and along with our new Head of Recruitment brought in some decent players. Not the basement-bucket types we've had in the last few windows.
Okay, we still might not be banging in the goals for fun and performances have fallen off from the high of a few weeks ago, but despite this, they've proved themselves by overcoming obstacles that previous, more experienced, managers have failed to solve - coming from behind in a game, bouncing back from a defeat and stopping the rot in a run of poor performances. They've also outwitted more experienced opposition managers time and again this season.
We're not the finished article, but we have a solid base to build from in the summer and with further changes in the backroom set-up (as mentioned by Ryan), coupled with our improved recruitment process, I'm genuinely optimistic about where we can go with this management team.

 

It'll be interesting to see whether, if we just fall short of the play-off places and now that we're mathematically safe, they do go a little bit more expansive for the remaining games? I think the caution is based upon the fact we'd tried the gung-ho approach under SM and failed miserably at it. With better players, we could be more expansive and may be that's what is front of mind when the summer recruitment gets underway?

 

At the time your comment was fair enough, however you made it before the McBurnie windfall. I believe the over spend of Rahic was around £2mil? £3mil from McBurnie should have got us somewhere near even, even taking into consideration length of contract for certain players many of whom have left.

Since Rahic Bowyer has come in and brought in mercenaries like Vaughan who I imagine weren’t cheap, Paudie on a 3 year contract and even the Don won’t be doing his contract as part of the Duke of Edinburgh award. So I think there’s only so long Rahic can be blamed for, for being relegated absolutely but if you’d have asked any city fan going into the second season in league 2 that they’d be 11th behind Morecambe and Newport there wouldn’t be much positivity around.

Also as Dennis states that’s not the message we get when season tickets come round, please advise the marketing team to be honest if that’s the case and I and many others I suspect will wait the two and a half more years before we can start to think about promotion again before buying another season ticket.

It’s time for those running the club to expect to be going for the title next season if we don’t go up, and admit this season was a failure.

 

With respect Wilsden it’s fans that demand that the club change managers. The directors then panic, especially with social media the way it is. Look at Bowyer a decent man and a decent manager, had us in the top 4 around the half way point and then after a few poor performances the mob turned and Rhodes panicked and brought his old favourite back with disastrous results. The reason the club is mid table at the moment is not down to the current regime but that disastrous decision a year ago. Trueman and Sellars have done wonders, but as soon as a few poor results happen, the mob will start again and pressure will mount. You can almost smell the rumblings after a poor display on Saturday despite winning, and a few defeats as this season comes to a close will bring the usual suspects out in force. I just hope Sparks remains strong when we hit a bad patch and not change managers like there going out of style.

 

Fully agree

 

So it’s the fans fault we’re a mid table fourth division side?

 

Read the post then read the title of this thread he speaks the truth

 

It’s just the way fans are. We all want to be Man City in Bradford City clothing. Attractive football, goals galore and dominating games. Even Parky came in for stick because he was too one dimensional and look at the great times he brought us. I agree with you about T&S walking a tightrope between keep or get rid. One week it’s “ glad they got the contract” and the next “it should have been until the end of the season “...

If we fail to get the play offs, it’ll still be a major failing for a club of our size but it won’t be the fault of T&S

 

Not at all Dennis, we are on the improvement road now. When Rahic jumped ship in November 2018 we were in L1. That is almost 2 1/2 yard ago. If we don't go up this time but next season that will be 3 1/2 years, then another season ( if we do it immediately) to get promotion from L1 or in the play offs, that's 4 1/2 years. QED?

 

One or two fans who are OTT can’t force managers out of a club it’s nonsense. I’m sure you’d admit Saturday was a crap watch, but nobody actually believes T & S are suddenly going to come under pressure unless our form takes a dramatic nosedive, as it did under Bowyer which the poster failed to point out. That’s why Bowyer was sacked, he was criticised by fans for months before he was sacked due to style of play, it didn’t suddenly come out of the blue and force the clubs hand we were in free fall. Our fans are no different to any other clubs. Coventry and Blackpool fans have boycotted their club and had it far tougher off the pitch than us, yet find themselves in divisions above us. Go figure...

 

The fact is pressure is put on the club by social media and forums . You can bet despite the two lads record lose a couple and there will be people on here and some who already have suggestion we need change and @Captain Grumpy is right we still had a chance of the play offs under Bowyer despite a massive injury list for weeks so we had a change of manager and a change of style what good did that do. And why was stuart appointed and been given so many chances because of fan pressure. Of course fans opinion counts but sometimes it’s just the vocal minority I hope Sparks has the Balls to be his own man

 

I hope you're not suggesting that we should've kept Bowyer. Sacking him was about the only good thing Rhodes did since coming back, from a footballing perspective. It may have been enough to save our season last year if only his ability at recruiting managers went further than his speed dial.

 

Read the posts tonight if we get beat and tell me fans don’t over react. After the state McCall left us in last December every fan just hoped we could stay up, we were in an awful place. However wind on to April and it’s anger that we might not make the playoffs. Anger that we only beat bottom club Grimsby by only 1-0. The freefall you talk about under Bowyer was two dismal defeats at Mansfield and Oldham. We weren’t in free fall we’d won two home games over Christmas and drawn at league champions elect Swindon, we were just outside the playoffs and Rhodes panicked over the mob mentality. Free fall arrived under Stu later on and is the reason we are currently mid table.