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There is nothing wrong with Valley parade . Does It needs a bit of TLC , certainly and the club have started on this, but like most things money is the guiding factor.
Odsal , super dome, Wembley of the north is all pie in the sky and has been talked about since the 1950's. Nothing has got off the drawing board and never will. It might be an ideal location on the m606 , but would bring very little to the city economy with fans getting off there ,entering a stadium and then leaving after the event. Putting money into the stadium owners pockets and not the wider economy.
The council should have bought Valley parade not Gibb's pension fund. Moved the Bulls down and helped to develop the stadium to cope with both sports, and then charged both rent at a reasonable amount, thus bringing a steady income, which would have repaid any outlay, Odsal could then have bee used for land fill, with a view to future development for light industries , right on the said motorway, again bringing income to the council from any commercial deals.
£2.5 cost of Valley parade + £1million in start up = £3.5 million. By the time of the lease end with Gibb over £ 9 million in rent will have been paid. No brainer, but as we know , you have to have no brain to work in the top council position's.
Also how much money would be lost to the bars and restaurants around the city centre on a matchday, if the football club moved away , or how much more could have been generated with the bulls down there and the ground used more than 23 times a year.
No lets move to a stadium outside the city , where the captive audience have to pay for what is on offer , Carlsburg at £4 -£5 a pint or more. More car journeys to get there and pay for the privilage to park.
Unless they build a rail link or supertram at the same time, where would you put this new stadium. Odsal is not the answer and never will be.

 

Of course people would move to a new stadium. we go for the football not the Arena its played in.
The reality here though, this is Bradford and where is the investment going to come from.
A new 25000 stadium including purchase of land and surrounding infastructure , is going to cost £100 million at an educated guess. The council , no way. Mr Rupp, dream on , outside investment , no chance, with a league 2 football club and championship rugby league club.

 

As i said in an earlier post, nothing wrong with Valley parade, and it is central for fans from all directions of the district , also on major bus and train routes. If we were to leave Valley parade , then of course the fans will follow, especially if the team are performing well. I just do not see the need at the present time .
If we owned the stadium, this scenario would not come up. In our current league 2 status the rental agreement is a nightmare , £8000+ per week, championship with all the added revenue, especially tv money , which equates to about £90000 per week, its a pittance.

 

It's just stupid talk. I get the attachment with Valley Parade, I love the place. But let's not come out with daft statwments that fans wouldn't turn up becuase of the part of town the stadium is in. I understand if the stadium was in another postcode like the Bulls ended up doing. I watched the Bulls for years and although the stadium was past its best, the area in many ways was far better than Manningham. Easier to get away from, no boy racers trying to run you down round midland Road and a good supply of pubs and clubs in Wibsey at the time.

 

Ok.Same argument.
I live in Rastrick.(Brighouse) No car. What time do I set off if I want a Coke in the Barracks tavern on lumb lane before a 7.45 kick off? I finish work in Huddersfield at 17.30.
I’ll answer it for you-
I will either work out a way to get to the match or I won’t.That’s what thousands of supporters do every midweek and weekend.
An argument can be found for every scenario.

Like you and many others I attended all the games at Odsal. I even discharged myself from hospital a day early to go to a Friday evening game.
I agree entirely with you that it’s a shithole and should be filled in.But this is all about if a NEW stadium is built.
It’s clearly never gonna happen because If a new stadium was ever going to be built there it would have been done by now.
That’s solely down to the various leaders of a completely apathetic council who have dithered over various schemes that would benefit the city.
Any new stadium built will have its critics based on there own personal reasons.
The main gripes about transport and available refreshments are always trotted out but I think the
main reason for many fans will (and always should be) “it’s not VP”

 

If Odsal was the chosen venue as @Rogered Tart says it would be a new stadium with all the benefits that go with it, there's plenty of parking around Odsal much more than ValleyParade and IMO far safer parking, Richard Dunns itself can accomadate 100s of cars as the outside all weather pitches would be used as they are for Sunday "car boot sales" then behind the stadium there is car parking and if it was a new stadium even more land fill could be up dated for parking.
Sorry to say but with regards beer your nit picking mate not everyone wants CAMERA Ales a couple of pints of whatever is on offer usually suffices most drinkers.
If we ever got to situation where 20/25,000 were attending games on a regular basis busses could be put on across the road at Richard Dunns just as they were during the heady days of Premiership football at Valley Parade.

 

And I don't think they can be ruled out either, whatever the council decide to use Richard Dunns for they would need car parking for the whatever its used for. If you drive down Rooley Lane there is a left turn into a large car park bigger than anything on offer at Valley Parade or the surrounding area.
As with Parking Down at Valley Parade there are permit parking only but as both me and @Rogered Tart have said there was no problem acconadating 20,000 plus on a Friday night fof the Bulls.
Good debate but we all know there won't be a stadium built for us or the Bulls to share if the City council are to be involved.

 

I’ve no idea.Probably a lot less than live in Baildon
Replace Rastrick with Wyke,Oakenshaw,Scholes,Northowram etc.As @Bronco says, if you have have issues getting to the ground due to personal circumstances then that applies wherever you live.
Hypothetically of course,if a new stadium was built in South Bradford do you think thousands of fans would refuse to go?

 

Unfortunately the Odsal situation has been ongoing most of yours and my lifetime, its a shame no one with imagination going forward saw what it could offer, apart from a few million being spent for the 1985 World Speedway Final, as you say it could generate our City many millions of pounds as land fill and maybe something could be done in the future (not sure how many years landfill has to be left to settle etc) in the present climate I wouldn't want our council getting involved, there are far too many other things they have as a priority to spend council tax money on.
I don't think we will be moving anywhere in the near future and certainly cant see the pension fund doing the club any favours as they are legally obliged to get the best deal they can from the tenants at Valley Parade, so although I'll be called for having no ambition I think we will be at Valley Parade and still using the facilities at Rawdon Meadows for many more years.

 

Or like in our case they go from 1 every 20 minutes to 1 every hour.

 

Without trawling through the whole thread and just skimming is what my take on the stadium debate is many fans saying we can't leave VP etc and some saying a new stadium has to be an option, I get both arguments but realistically deep down I'm sure we all want to stay put at VP, but i think the ones calling for other options to VP really just want to put another realistic option out there which would provide us with leverage regarding the rental costs at VP, but if we just argue VP is the only option then Gibbs pension fund hold us to ransom.

 

Are.you talking to yourself?

 

I think Geoffrey's plans had development opportunity for a North East Corner and another tier on the Midland Road.

 

We don’t need to extend the ground it’s big enough. Just keep or get into good order

 

We don't have a great stadium. The big problem for our ground is the fact that it's ludicrously lobsided. The only way to solve this is if the council give permission to close South Parade and enable us to expand the main stand sideways, incorporating new changing rooms. Then the problem of the Bradford end could only be solved by closing Holywell Ash Lane and demolishing a fair few of the terraced houses behind and building a new stand. Then we would have a great stadium with potential to increase the Midland Road stand too. Could that ever happen? Who knows, but I suspect it's unlikely to happen any time soon. The alternative is a brand new stadium, but where? And where would the money come from? Given that the world is likely to enter difficult financial times, possibly for a long time, I suspect not much will happen in my remaining years. But in other places it has, when the necessary backing has been found.

 

It's a cold shit place and windy as buggery.

After going from Yeadon for home games including night matches after the fire I honestly can't think of a worse location.

Valley Parade is our home, end of.

 

The bulls were a victim of their own success, the better you become the bigger the wages you have to fork out. Caisley had budgeted for bigger crowds on their return to Odsal, crowds numbers which were pivotal to pay for the increasing wages. He knew the writing was on the wall. For over 10 years the bulls brought razzmatazz and big crowds to super league, something they should be praised for. Unfortunately the big benefactor behind other clubs wasn't there and the club weren't able to recover from the Harris debacle

 

I was one of them, followed them as Bulls/Northern for 20 years but saw what was happening with the club behind the scenes. Just like football, i won't follow blindly if i become bored with what i see as frauds running the show. I did the same with City in the late 2000s, i ain't there to watch aimless shite.