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  1. Stevay_b

    Stevay_b Impact Sub

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    It's not over til it's over. Rahic is still at the club and until he's gone we need to carry on the work to get rid.
     
  2. Rogered Tart

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    I agree wih this and yet there were some on here and on social media that said the flyover was a waste of time and money. It quite clearly wasn’t. Yesterday felt like old times for the first time in a long time and one big factor in this was the belief that Rahic is on his way out. Lets hope this is indeed the case.
     
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  3. Bronco

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    To be honest I was hoping and still are hoping the reason it was pulled was far more to do with Edin going than a non contracted player signing for the club.
    As you say this fly bye has been arranged for several weeks the player was signed up on Friday the situation gets stranger by the minute.
    If things don't happen behind the scenes certain people who have put @JonButterfield@JonButterfield in this position should be ashamed of themselves.
     
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  4. Stevay_b

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    Any investor would have already done their research, its hardly hush hush that the fans are fed up with rahic destroying our club. If they haven't then should they really be investing in football
     
  5. How

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    I think what Jon is trying to say without saying it is that we have a potential new investor waiting In the wings who we are trying to show off the club too. Might not be a big football man and doesn’t always know what being part of a football club could be like when the crowd are behind the team and how many tickets you can sell etc.

    Now Rhodes or the club invite this investor to the game and say “come and have a look what you could be investing in”. They get the crowd in, they get a new signing, invite back the ex player who we all loved and put on a bit of a show. We get a good result and the investor thinks, “yes this could work, there’s a chance I’ll get my money back”. Etc.

    Now change that for a plane going over as we are trying to build an aromosphere, the fans attention is on that and Chanting Edin out, the players are not focussed and the game becomes a damp squib. Totally different mindset leaving the game then.

    So someone from the club steps in and attempts to make sure the day runs as they want. Going as far as paying the money to cover the cost of the plane so people aren’t out of pocket. THat goes to show it must be serious and not mugging fans off. Why would they? You can all chip in again and get a plane up there for the next game.

    If it offends you that much, ask for your money back and start your own fund for a plane if you believe this is a sham. Jon and others did all the hard work, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and do it yourself? But I bet you won’t and will just continue to argue it for the sake of it.
     
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  6. Fordy117

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    Rhodes being back is a positive. He knows deep down like we all do that currently the people who he sold the club too haven't delivered at all.

    Getting paid or not it doesn't matter to me. What matters at this moment is getting Edin completely out of the club. 20% shares gone and if Rupp wants out then get him out also. We need serious players at Bradford City.
     
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  7. Mike Hunt

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    If he’s *that* bothered about confidentiality Jon he should have said absolutely nothing. That’s the correct way to deal with confidential issues, neither confirm or deny, say nothing.
     
  8. Plastic Bantam

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    I don’t see how he was held to ransom?? He could have said no I don’t want a refund and do the fly over.. he chose not to and has ensured everyone gets their money back. It’s hardly being held to ransom
     
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  9. City-since-67

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    Contrary to popular belief the club's hierarchy are not members of this site and therefore had no way of contacting the organiser. We were therefore asked to reach out to Jon which we did. He was given all the facts as relayed to us and was asked for his co-operation. The situation was very difficult and Jon handled things in a very professional manner. For what it is worth this request to cancel did not come from Edin Rahic. However I believe the correct decision was made in the interests of the club.
     
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  10. Onside

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    Look I am not being arsy for the sake of it. I didn’t know until you have just told me that weeks ago they weren’t bothered but now they are! The club panic over a protest at the last minute and we are all supposed to stand down and behave? You then start snapping at me because guess what something only you know? I like others do not have a hot line to the club heirachy as you obviously do! I fully accept Jon decisions and obviously trying to consult with 64 ppl would have been challenging to say the least.

    I will await further developments.
     
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  11. City-since-67

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    I will answer that for Jon because I am sure he getting sick of having to defend his decision by now. You will hopefully appreciate that some things just cant always be put in the public domain. We were approached by the club to see if we knew who was organising the flyover. Our response was that we were aware who it was as far as he was a member of this forum. We were given certain information and asked to convey this to Jon to see if it was possible to cancel / postpone the flyover. I got in touch with Jon through this forum and asked if we could speak by telephone. We had a very candid conversation during which I told him the facts as had been told to me and why the club wanted the flyover cancelled. Jon agreed that he would consider it if certain things I promised were seen to be true. Unfortunately time got the better of us and by Friday teatime it was too late to cancel the flyover without the contributors losing their money. Jon, quite rightly, absolutely refused to do this.This was conveyed to the club. We were then contacted on Saturday and informed that the money would be refunded to the fund ( by a private individual by the way who believed the club would be harmed). I again contacted Jon and made the offer to him. It was impossible at that time to get in touch with 64 contributers so Jon made the decision that nothing would be lost once a promise of a full refund of the money was made. People saying this was a bad decision because ER is still at the club are deluded I am afraid. Nothing can happen overnight in that respect but this decision by Jon may just have helped it in the longer run. As I have said to another poster you have to bear in mind that 3 weeks ago they weren't bothered about the flyover now they are. That should suggest to you all that there are changes afoot and we all need to show a little patience. Certain people have only been back at the club a matter of weeks.
     
  12. HUDDERSSBANTAM

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    I debate. You just say 'I know more than you but I'm not telling you'.

    What have you ever offered to the forum?

    Please refer me to the threads because I must have missed it.

    You won't even tell your own members, of Bingley Bantams, about meetings you gave had with with the club.

    You're a joke.
     
  13. JonButterfield

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    There are a few people who won't be appeased, but we seem to be going round in circles.

    How does a flyover hurt the club - if an investor walks because they see the owners have no support, that decision would be a sound business decision.

    Why weren't fans consulted - it was impossible.

    These two questions have been answered at length. You can't just ask the same thing, that's already been answered, over and over and over and think you're making a point.

    Anyway.

    Most appear to be understanding of the situation, some are biding their time, completely acceptable, but saying I should have pushed on and hurt the club? For me, that's the only unacceptable response.

    It wasn't a military operation, we are allowed to negotiate and be flexible, and NOTHING HAS BEEN LOST.

    We can very easily complete a flyover.
     
  14. bantam2708

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    There's 2 weeks until the Walsall home game and 3 weeks until the Scunthorpe home game. If Edin Rahic is still a part of Bradford City by the time these games come around then the flyover should happen in one of these games imo.
     
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  15. Fools Gold

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    Who’s bought the silence ?
     
  16. Rogered Tart

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    #bringbacktheflyover
     
  17. Faithful Bantam

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    Sounds to me like Rupp was prepared to shell out for Henry, but only if the flyby didn’t go ahead....

    Anyway, if Edins on the ropes then it’s the most significant point.

    Fair play for organising it in the first place.
     
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  18. JonButterfield

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    I'm not sure if I'm allowed to divulge where the refund is coming from or not, and to be honest I don't actually know for sure WHO is paying it - what I do know is, we're getting a full refund and it isn't worth ANYBODY'S time to mislead us on this. The repercussions of refusing to refund us at this stage would be very unpredictable, I imagine, and if the club is this bothered about the prospect of a flyover, you can bet they won't want the backlash from something like that.
     
  19. JonButterfield

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    I have not been refunded already, no. Yes, I have taken it on the back of a promise.
     
  20. king karl

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    Isnt this like me paying a hitman 1k to kill the wife

    And the wife saying to me I'll refund your 1k if you dont kill me as I'm not happy about it

    And me saying.. yeh sorry about that I'll take the 1k and call it off :D
     
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