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It's completely pointless, no one in primary or secondary school will be vaccinated yet no doubt will attend the game. Thats a good section of our crowd that all week will have mixed with hundreds of other unvaccinated children for the whole week prior. Then suddenly the issue is a few adults who have chosen not to get vaccinated.

I'm double vaccinated, I could show my "Covid Passport" but will that make people safer? I can still catch the virus, and because I have a vaccine passport I can attend the game even if I have covid because if I look on the app my "Covid Passport" can be saved as a PDF to be used for the next 30+ days.

FoLlOw ThE sCiEnCe

 

Agree with a lot of that Ricky but I really don't get the hysteria on here. Getting a Pass is easy, I got mine and my wife's in days, hard copy and on my phone. Last month we went to Cyprus where you are liable to have to produce your pass to get in restaurants and shops, fines for you and property operator if you don't and can't produce, 8k Euros. Equally in the peak a few months ago there was a 9.00 pm curfew with 300 Euro fine and requirement to text Police with a reason if you were not going to be home by the deadline.
Wales is introducing Covid pass requirements and it's coming over the UK as winter approaches, yet all we get on here is bleating about refunds on tickets, get jabbed for goodness sake.

 

Good for you, but don't moan on here next season if the playing budget has to be cut as a result of action you and others with similar views might take.

 

Covid passports will be a nightmare for the club.

Not everyone has a smart phone, adult ownership in the UK is at 84% overall but this is heavily skewed towards younger age groups and drops off to just 53% for 65+ which would equate to 874 current senior ST holders not being able to use the NHS app to gain entry to VP.

The young person age group for tickets is 17-23 which will mean that as it stands a 17 year old doesn't need a covid passport but they will as soon as they turn 18. Most 17 year olds can't yet get a jab (although it has just announced that those within 3 months of turning 18 will be offered them at some point - no date given for when this will happen though) which means that when that ticket holder turns 18 they'll have at 8 weeks of no football because they will need a passport but will not have been able to get both jabs. That'll obviously be a bit crap for the ticket holder but it means City will have to do ID age checks for everyone with a young person ticket.

There'll probably need to be extra stewarding to make sure that everyone in the queues has the proper documentation to get in and then there'll be hold ups as the as someone inevitably switches their phone off as they get to the turnstile or gets caught trying to blag it through with a screenshot or something. And that's assuming that the barcode/QR code readers that we've got for the new ticket system can handle the NHS app otherwise there'll be another step to go through to gain entry.

As for time slots for entry as alluded to in that DM article, that's fine for a big novelty event like a cup final but a bog standard L2 match, who wants to be in their seat 30/60 minutes prior to kick off(?) but the club will have to shoo everyone off the concourses because if everyone hangs about there buying stuff from the tea bar then it completely negates the value of staggered entry times.

On top of all this, look at the range of opinions in the responses on this thread, whatever policy regards facemasks and social distancing etc the club chooses to follow, they're going to alienate fans who think that the chosen approach is too strict/lax.

 

You are missing the point surely. You can still contract the virus double jabbed. The Health Secretary case in point, hes double jabbed and proved positive last week. Hes not at risk, imagine if someone at risk caught it?

For example , personally, I am clinically at risk, not because of illness, but because of medication to prevent further illness. My jabs as a result are only 50% effective. So it’s not just the fragile elderly at risk.

I still cannot risk catching Covid because my immune system is severely weakened making any potential symptoms far worse. I respect other people’s freedom to choose, I would expect other people to respect my freedom to argue that the way this has been run in contradictory terms, headed by you know , who is an utter shambles

Sorry off topic ,but I couldn’t not avoid the question.

Kev

 

Just close the stadiums.
Put us out of our misery and let @wetherbywhaler sit there by himself pretending he’s not having a party in the boardroom lol

 

Yeah, he, like you, is a t**t for wanting a refund.

government is to blame, not City.

you should be embarrassed to ‘support’ yer club.

 

For the record I won’t ask for a refund but it will piss me off that ‘directors’ and so called ‘vips’ will still be able to attend because it fits the criteria.
What utter bollox, it’s no different to Boris having a party at number 10 when the rest of us couldn’t.

 

It isn’t hard work at all. You said staff. I would say that includes all people working at and for the club but obviously you think differently. What do you call those that work for the club not attached to the playing side if not staff? Volunteers?

 

Comply or stay at home.
Are you another who thinks a self fudged LFT or being granted entey as one of thousands of double jabbed people who has been catching and passing Covid reduces the spread of the virus?

It's the most nonsense policy I have seen in a long time and protects no one.

 

I agree it’s bullshit.
There could be 20000 fans at VP on Boxing Day having all proved their vaccination status but it won’t stop an outbreak if 1000 of those fans have Covid but don’t know it.
I caught and passed on Covid even though fully vaccinated so what’s the point of these policies.

 

I think covid passports are an abhorrent idea. But they're coming. I'll do everything I can to swerve any establishment that demands presentation of a covid passport for entry

 

Right with you Faithful.

The idea that this stops with Covid jabs is naive in the extreme. Accept the principle and we will soon come to realise that our "movement licence" or "green card" will be needed for every aspect of life.

And the requirements in the future to maintain its validity may not always be something you want to do.

I will avoid any business that goes down this route and regrettably that means City too if they choose to.

 

There are many of us (rightly or wrongly) that see a wider agenda at play here and it is not just about our aversion to taking a jab or test.

I see a cynical attempt to drive everyone towards the adoption of a digital ID through a manufactured pseudopandemic.

Before anyone jumps on me, I know there have been victims claimed by Covid19.

My view however is that the response to SARS Cov2 has and continues to be disproportionate to the threat.

Vax passports cannot be justified on the basis that 99.85% of people DON'T die from the infection.

This really is a matter of principle for me whether I am right or wrong and providing a negative test enables the digital ID plan further.

 

This idea of vaccine passports is abhorrent. I've had my first dose of the jab but that was my choice, as it is the choice of others to reject the vaccine if they so wish. As soon as schemes like this are introduced, you're effectively making vaccines compulsory. Its compulsory vaccination by coercion and its morally wrong.

If laws are brought in to exclude the unvaccinated from pubs/restaurants/stadia then you're creating a two tiered society where the unvaccinated are treated as second class citizens. I'm not sure how anyone who believes in human rights can support such a scheme.

The comparison I've seen to smoking and such bans is nonsense. On the one hand you have cigarettes that have zero positive health benefits and cause terminal illnesses that have been proven over decades of scientific research. And on the other you have scepticism of a vaccine that nobody knows the long term side effects of. The two aren't comparable in the slightest.

Back to the OP and their possible introduction at stadia. Its not gonna happen. And by that, I mean the implementation of such measures. The guidance to use them might be there, but as with the covid app QR code that you were supposed to scan when you went to the pub, people will stop caring almost instantly and give up on it. And its more effort than its worth for the stewards to bother enforcing it.

And the idea that these certificates will have the option for a negative test rather than vaccination is laughable. If that is brought in then as others have said, people will just fake the test which undermines their whole purpose anyway.

 

If there is or their isn't I can't control that. I'm not going to shit my pants worrying about whats coming up down the line.

 

So getting the thread back on City focus. Has there been any word from the club, league or FA to suggest that Passports will be needed? Or is it just scaremongering ?

 

If we have to have entry time slots then I’ll be out, it’s not so much a matter of principle but it ruins the day for me. I find pre match boring and turn up for around 2.55, I have no desire to sit there for 30+ minutes freezing my arse off in winter. Also do we have to stay afterwards, no mention of that. Imagine being 3 or 4 down and having to sit there in freezing cold for 10-15 minutes after a game when thousands are just going to pack onto public transport after and pre game anyway. Doesn’t make sense to me. I’ll wear a mask if need be, as I can see the benefits but with timed entry social distance will still be impossible to do during and after the match so it’s as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

 

What he means is, you have to read the Mail, Express and Sun and swallow their bigoted shite wholesale.