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  1. Frank Castle

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    You don't even need to fake them as LFT's are only around 40% accurate. Many countries don't even recognise them as a valid test because they are so inaccurate. I know of 6 occasions this year in which a different member of staff at a single school has had a positive LFT result only for the PCR to come back negative the next day, as a result that year group has missed 2 days education thanks to the inaccuracy of the LFT.

    The passports are a joke. If you're worried about COVID get vaccinated, that's the best way to protect yourself. Discriminating against those who chose not to get the vaccine is unfair and ridiculous.
     
  2. Bigrod

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    I don’t want to drive within the speed limits in my car. It is capable of doing over 100mph, has brakes which weren’t even thought of when speed limits were set up. I don’t really want to pay for car insurance as I would be prepared to take the risk. Why should I pay road tax as I already pay VAT on the fuel I put in my vehicle at the pumps….and on and on.

    Yet I do. I recognise that speed limits are by and large sensible. That like it or not to drive I have to have Insurance, My Vehicle Taxed, MOT, and that Tax is taken. It reduces risk, and helps to provide an infrastructure for transport.

    Should we now abandon all immunisation programmes, on the basis that children normally receive them and cannot give consent when they do? Should we wait until they are adults.

    Strikes me that it is not always about what I want, but what is in the greater ‘Public Good’.
     
  3. Frank Castle

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    If I were sick to death about reading about COVID I probably wouldn't click on a thread with the word COVID in the title.
     
  4. Dennis

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    For those who haven't seen one previously, here's my Covid Pass from the NHS App on my phone. I've had both jabs, had 2 negative LFTs and a negative PCR test. There is no further medical info embedded in the QR symbol ...

    Screenshot_20210714-165825.jpg

    It's even more simplified on some versions of the app replacing the QR symbol with a big green tick showing that the person has had either two jabs or a negative test result. Something like this is what is being proposed to get us into large spectator events such as footie.

    Is this really an example of Big Brother at work trying to limit our freedoms further? I don't think so.
     
  5. WilsdenBantam

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    As someone who was born in 92 and has had 1 jab and the next one the week before the season starts I can’t wait for kickoff, none of us have control of the future but I’ll be making the most of each day without restrictions not living in fear.
     
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  6. BingleyBantam

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    1903 club membership, priority away card, season ticket & double jabbed…I will be getting a seat on the team bus to away games with all my fan points!
     
  7. Dennis

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    I emailed Ryan Sparks about the club's current position on Covid 19 restrictions at VP. The current Spectators Code of Practice, which applied at recent pre-season games at VP, says that masks must be worn inside VP even when seated. Ryan said that is now being updated.

    The club expects the new Code to be published next week at the earliest, in readiness for the Oldham game. The key aspect is that the club will expect masks to be worn in the internal areas of VP - concourses, toilet areas etc - and while queuing. Masks won't be expected to be worn when seated.

    Ryan made it quite clear that since the start of the pandemic, the Club has been guided by the EFL, the Sports Ground Safety Authority and the Government and will continue to do so. I suspect that means that that group will have the final say moving forward.

    HTH
     
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  8. Faithful Bantam

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    The idea of vaccine passports is nonsensical and dangerous. They don't keep people safer and are entirely designed to coerce people into being vaccinated. Simple as that.
     
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  9. Stafford Bantam

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    On the basis of today's announcement by Sajid Javid (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58535258) I have closed this thread.

    Hopefully, it will never need reopening.

    EDIT: Seems I might have been wrong.
     
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  10. Dennis

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    You can do all of that by taking the LFT and it proving negative. Then, there's no issue. If however it proves positive then yes, you should be isolating and not be responsible for spreading the virus to others whether friends, family or complete strangers. Faking the test result merely increases the risk that while you're out enjoying tourself, others are being infected through no fault of their own. Faking the result for your own short term pleasures is simply gambling with the well being of others.
     
  11. Edin Nowhere

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    Many Stewards weren't wearing masks in the approach to the ground. Some people put masks on to enter but in the seats less than 5% were wearing masks.

    On the way out pretty much no one bother putting masks on to leave the stadium through the back.

    It said please wear masks on the scoreboard but no one took notice.

    I think people realise after 18 months of covid masks outdoors are pretty much pointless and acted accordingly and the stewards never questioned anyone which was good to see.
     
  12. Park bantam

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    I think what happened after the three lads missed the penalties in the Euro final shows why the players feel the need to take the knee
     
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    I'm more than happy to get the pass , double vaccinated and happy to prove it if needed to gain access , not sure what peoples issue is
     
  14. Ulysses S Grant

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    I got a vaccine at the earliest opportunity, for the sake of my health. No one is controlling us and anyone who believes going unvaccinated in a global pandemic is s good idea to "prevent Govt control" needs there head testing.
     
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  15. Dubois

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    I went to the first home game of the season against Oldham and felt so uncomfortable I haven't been back since. I had hoped that some basic precautions would be in place but I was sadly disappointed. I don't bear the club any ill-will and it's clear that the great majority of supporters are happy to carry on as if there was no virus around. As cases and deaths continue to rise inexorably though, I feel my caution is justified but that's just me. I would never dream, however, to ask for any sort of refund. I'm perfectly happy for the club to have my money and use it as they see fit. I support the club as I always have done and appreciate that, like many organisations, they are in a tricky position. I hope that things change for the better and I will feel able to return later in the season but I'm not going to get all precious about it in the meantime.
     
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    Why would anybody want to fake the rresults of a LFT and risk spreading the virus to others? It's simply irresponsible.
     
  17. Ulysses S Grant

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    If we hadn't locked down, isolated, social distanced and vaccinated then that death rate would have been higher. All that has kept it from being in the millions is management of the disease. The steps taken and the steps to be taken are needed to protect people like my daughter who as a nurse is absolutely shattered by the whole experince and spent months working extra shifts to cover illness at work and wearing PPE that brought her out in a rash.

    If covid passports help protect the frontline workers of the NHS then they should be mandatory and those who refus ethe vaccine should be told to stay home.
     
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  18. bantamdave41

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    Quite frankly, I simply don't worry about such. Tis what it is...

    Illness and death becomes us all. Its just the path we take that I have more control on.
     
  19. Ulysses S Grant

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    Suits me. I've no truck with covid passports at all. And as for blaming Boris, just stop and remember that if we had a Labour govt we would most likely be locked down until we had zero cases (and a bankrupt economy)
     
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  20. Frank Castle

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    Wow, just wow!!! So you would ban kids from watching football? Absolutely ludicrous.

    The only thing undermining the vaccine rollout at the moment are the threats being made by Government. The constant fear mongering which is turning people like you against their fellow man. It's disgusting.
     
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