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Boris mauling Corbyn over his secret payments from press TV was gold.

Corbyn was wriggling and squirming.

 

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You were right with one of your comments you made earlier and i'll allude to that.

Religion sucks. It doesn't bring people together it divides and conquers, which is its primary aim.

 

Anything the US can do we can do better.
Pair of jokers.

 

Dreadful for the country. I hope I'm proved wrong, however I believe it will be a disaster.

 

Thank god we have a Proper right winger at the wheel. About time the Tories were dragged to the right after Cameron and the disastrous May.

Now we can finally get on with Brexit and build relations with our friends over the pond.

And before folk shout me down I challenge anybody to offer me a reason why Corbyn would be any better.

 

He won't get a deal through. Labour don't want a deal for their own selfish, political gain. They would rather the country suffers so they can finger point and points score at the next election.

We will leave without a deal IMO.

 

Ah... Jeremy (whats my policy today?) Corbyn. Reminds me of Wilfred Bramble except Bramble was successful in what he did.

Now JC wants to ignore 17.4 million votes to further his own rapidly failing political career.

 

Please tell me you are joking!

You spoiled your ballot paper because the politicians didn't give you all the answers? That's unbelievable.

Surely as a responsible voter and a grown up adult you are capable of doing YOUR own research and forming YOUR own opinion.

When has anyone trusted everything a politician says? Next you'll be telling me you trust everything an estate agent tells you?

There's a LOT of information out there. It is YOUR job as a voter to make up your own mind based on your findings and not to rely on the political rhetoric of whoever happens to be wanting your vote at the time.

If you are unwilling to do your own research maybe it is best that you spoiled your ballot paper, and you may want to do the same in the next general election too ;-)

 

All the disgrace is on the remain side as they try to undo the democratic choice of the free vote and decision made, The ones who are undemocratic are those hundreds of MPs who stood in the last general election on a manifesto to leave by both Labour and Conservative and who were happy to be elected on that basis only to then vote against it like the lying cheats they are claiming any reason they can think of not to honour the vote the people gave them, They are the real anti-democrats who are making us a laughing stock,
Is it really acceptable to be elected promising to honour the leave vote and then when elected break that promise and vote against it?

 

Had to smile at Corbyn saying Boris had no manifesto as leader, surely his manifesto would be the same as May's.
And didnt the same apply when Blair left and Brown took over without even a vote from the Labour party members, very selective memory Jeremy.
And to be honest I don't know why he and the others in his shadow cabinet think they would be swept into power if there was a general election, Corbyn needs to get his own house in order starting with regards antisemitism its not going away Jeremy.

 

It doesn't matter what Boris does, the left want him to fail and will put any negative spin on the good he does. They would much rather the country fails so they can continue their loathing and finger point.

Same in America. Trump says and does some daft things but the facts are ignored. Booming economy, record unemployment, record black people in work, excellent renegotiated trade deals etc.

 

Theres a far better way of describing exactly what really happened. There wasn't a politician in Parliament who ever thought that the voting public of this country would ever vote in numbers big enough to win a vote on our future in the EU. So Cameron brazenly put it to the vote. Big mistake for Parliament and anyone with a view to staying. Even up to just before the vote they still thought the vote would go their way, they naively ignored the growing disenchantment towards the EU to a point where their head in the sand attitude lost them the vote.
Now, from my own viewpoint of assessing the situation, instead of constantly berating 17.4 million voters and blaming every man and his voting dog for this brexit shambles, the people in charge of the remain campaign need to be asked serious questions about how and why their campaign was such an abject failure, and why 17.4 million voters chose to vote against their wishes.
Maybe, just maybe, if they had asked these questions within good time in the brexit vote build up they might never have put themselves and the country in the position it is in. Because lets not pussy foot about here, its those very politicians that have caused this mess, nobody else.
But i guess its easier to pour blame and scorn on Joe public who ticked a box on a ballot paper. Classic politics eh, never take the can for anything.

 

I think you will find most of the 'polorised, partisan and childish' behaviour has come from one direction.

There was a ballot. There was a result. One group of people, the remainers, decided they didn't like that DEMOCRATIC result and have spent the following three years completely messing up negotiations and our chance of becoming a flourishing independent nation.

And in all the time, the remainers still never bothered to ask that all important question - 'Why did you vote leave?'.

Oh, and just to be clear, I was pretty much on the fence, but having seen how the EU have behaved over the last 3 years I am now desperate to get out of that awful organisation.

 

It is now becoming pretty obvious that the main reason a deal could not be done was in fact Theresa May herself

 

Lets see what Tony Blair and New Labour actually did while winning 3 elections

Introduced the national minimum wage and establishing the low pay commission...
Brought in the human rights act,
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships,
Tripled spending on our NHS, 4 new medical schools built
42,400 extra teachers, 212,000 more support staff,
Scrapped section 28, introduced civil partnerships,
Doubled overseas aid budget...
Introduced sure start,
lifted 900000 pensioners out of poverty,
Peace in Ireland with good Friday agreement,
Tax credits for working poor, Equality and human rights commission...
Reduced the number of people waiting over six months for an operation from 284000 to almost zero by 2010, 44000 extra doctors, 89000 extra nurses...
Brought in the winter fuel allowance,
Climate change act,
Decreased homelessness by 73%...
Free eye tests for over 60s,
16,000 more police officers,
Extended the opening hours of over three quarters of GP practices...
Free prescriptions for cancer patients,
Removed the majority of hereditary peers,
Free part-time nursery place for every three - four year olds...
Paid annual leave to 28 days per year,
Paternity leave,
Doubled education funding,
Increased the value of child benefit by over 26%
Introduced thefood standards agency,
Brought in the equality act,
Brought in the FOI act,
Increased university places,
Helped end the civil war in sierra leone,
Rural development programme,
EMA, free bus passes for over 60s, banned cluster bombs,
£20bn in improvements to social housing conditions, longest period of sustained low inflation since the 1960s...
Reduced he number of people on waiting lists by over 500000; waiting times fell to a maximum of 18 weeks
(lowest ever levels)...
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75%, doubled the number of registered childcare spaces, Introduced the disability rights commission...
Free television licences for those aged 75+, Free breast cancer screening..
introduced the hunting act, banned testing of cosmetics on animals...
10 years of continuous economic growth, wrote off up to 100% of debt owed by poorest countries.
Reduced the National Debt to near Zero,
Although Gordon Brown being much more to the left managed to feck it all up after Blair had gone

Of course we wait for the Left/Corbyn to win an election and do the same for the people of this country who need help not empty promises, Or maybe have a group hug with Hamass, Hezbollah and the IRA to discuss it and form a committee, That should do it

 

The struggle for some to comprehend the outcome of a vote with just two choices is amusing. See, had remain won, and they had plenty of time to rally the troops to make sure they did, the game would have been over. The leave voters disappear into obscurity and the EU carries on its merry way regardless of its practices being questioned. But unfortunately for this said organisation, the democratic right of the UK's citizens to vote on the subject has ensured this won't happen. Or thats whats supposed to happen. I still don't think we will ever leave, its like we've signed up to one of those cult religions where leaving isn't an option. If leave doesn't happen it will be the second time i've voted in my lifetime and it will be the last. I won't waste my time again.

 

To answer your question. I voted leave. I'm not ashamed, not one little bit. Hth.

 

Democracy is been failed by the MPs not by anyone else, They asked the public to decide and because they do not like the answer they are refusing to implement it with all sorts of reasons given including that the public did not vote for this deal or that deal, We were given a straight choice of leave or remain, The Government have every right to try implement leaving with a deal that favours the UK but if that is not possible then they should implement the result of the referendum and leave on no deal terms, THAT IS WHAT THE VOTE DECIDED.

 

Just the other day, I heard someone say that, for most, becoming PM is the beginning of what they wanted to achieve. For Johnson, it’s all he wanted to achieve...About right.