I would like us to move stadium. Valley Parade is in an absolute dump of a location, full of undesirables looking to break into cars and the parking and access is an absolute nightmare. VP itself is shabby, rundown and looks unfinished.
An 18,000 stadium at Odsal isn't the answer and I am not sure what is. All I know is if Man City can leave Maine Road, Arsenal can leave Highbury etc then we can leave VP in order to progress and improve our future.
I am not sure what makes VP so special because lets face it, we have some horrendous memories there and the vast majority of our history is in L1 and L2.
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Most liked posts in thread: Are we moving to new stadium at odsal (now with Poll)
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When Bradford had the great Westfield Hole in the centre, that was a time to rethink the way forward. They could have had a City Centre purpose built stadium, which could have accommodated both City and “nouveau Northern’. Good central links to both rail stations. Close to Manchester and Wakefield Road arteries for visiting fans. Creating a good footfall on many Saturdays. Allowing the sensible regeneration of Kirkgate Market, Rawson Market and John Street Market. A stadium which in addition to sport could have housed music and cultural events. Sections of the stadium under the stands could have had commercial units/select shopping/food/sports/cinema/bowling alley and health functions.
But no lets go to the hole in South Bradford, take the footfall away from the imploding/deteriorating centre, stacked with units that no one visits at all!
Lets demolish the Broadway Centre, build the stadium at the heart of the City, and sell Odsal for housing and/or warehousing/light industrial units!Hulmebantam, TRB101, RonnieBrown and 5 others like this. -
No thanks.
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Nope.
Though I'm not against a move to a new ground per se, this isn't it.
Limiting it to 18,000 would effectively seal our fate as a L1/2 team forevermore.
The current pricing structures have allowed us to 'relatively' regularly exceeded 18k crowds in L1 in the recent past. If those structures were to remain imagine what crowds we could get in the Championship. No matter how far away that seems at this point in time!CT Bantam, Silverbantam, WilsdenBantam and 4 others like this. -
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As an indication, a £500k annual charge would finance a motgage of around £4.5mill! And that's a long way off the cost of £50mill say for a 25,000 capacity basic stadium!
Anybody who believes we'd even get close to funding a new stadium from what we pay to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund for the annual lease on VP needs their head examiningPineapple Salesman, bantam65, Bronco and 4 others like this. -
Of all the things that are likely to cement our place in L1/2 forever and a day, ‘only’ having 18k seats won’t be it.
Personally, I’d love to see a visionary, joint venture to set up a modern sports ground us to share with the bulls. Could be a fantastic catalyst for both clubs.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Hoochy-Min, Inspector, Mike Hunt and 3 others like this. -
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Whilst acknowledging it will never happen because this city is all talk and no action. I think a move there would rejuvenate this club. Taking the burden of close on 500k a year rent of our backs and the insurmountable pitch drainage problem.
Odsal is ideally situated just of the motorway ideal for handling traffic and with state of the art facilities and not as many seats to fill a more realistic price could be charged.
While of course there would be resistance from the diehards in time everyone will benefitStop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Bantam@{Lancs}, How, Faithful Bantam and 3 others like this. -
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Then we had over 18k for the quid games against Stockport and Oxford. Plus the Cup games against Arsenal, Villa, Leeds, Sunderland and Reading. So 146 if you include the Liverpool friendly.
All that while being in leagues 1 and 2. If we have ambitions of being a championship club then it’s a stupid idea of an 18k stadium, even if we upped season tickets too £249 which I think plenty would pay for championship football plus the far bigger away followings so I think it’d have to be 25k unless we are happy to float around in the shit leagues forever.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand... -
File under 80,000 Seats, sliding roof, Wembley of the North super dome.
Having said that, VP will need some money spending to update it in the next lease periodHulmebantam, dn14bantam, Onside and 2 others like this. -
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Couldnt think of anything worse for City than moving to Odsal. Doubt I would renew ST, just the odd match for me if it were to happen, which I very much doubt anyway.
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A WOAP article based on ST sales clearly showed where our support base is, not South Bratfud, but North Bradford, where us dwellers do not venture to manky areas such as Odsal.
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Ask an Arsenal fan if they prefer The Emirates or Highbury. Ask any fan who has to go to watch their chosen team in a shared ground. It's kind of ridiculous that we're even looking down on a potential ground swap because it only has an 18k capacity. Right now we're playing in the bottom tier of the English football league. The ground we are currently at is not dragging us down. We don't need to move just yet. How many times did we sell out VP when we were in the Prem? Maybe we don't need to move at all. I don't think more car spaces and a free "park and ride" scheme are suddenly going to make us a more attractive football club. VP is more than adequate for years to come, be that in the Leagues or in the Championship.WilsdenBantam, Idlebantam, Petrov and 1 other person like this. -
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I actually don’t mind sharing a ground. It makes financial sense, for a teams at our level and with our level of support, to consider it.
...and (punctuation aside) I was not asking for immediate change. I was suggesting that the club needs to be considering if VP is the best location 5, 10, 15 years down the line. We need to be considering and reviewing options now.
Many believe that the emotional ties to VP trump all other considerations. Although I can understand that I am less inclined to this and believe that if a move is commercially beneficial it should be fully considered.Park bantam, NorthernMonkey, Dennis and 1 other person like this. -
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