Who do you want as Manager?

I think the remit was challenging for a PO place, not promotion, per se.

 

To all the delusional ones, listen to a man that knows football. Not a board owner who knows jigsaw blades.

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Just 1 I think. Same as the number of players involved who have us sat where we are now. Why?

I'm not defending Edin but 5 came in during January rather than none I think.

 

Bullet points

- The window opened 1st Jan.
- Goal Keeper and Full back are required pronto! If we are serious and in fact ready.
- Injury hit team after Fleetwood win. Yet 1 point behind Blackburn
- Yeovil disaster - No fit fullbacks
- Hendrie gone, McMahon on strike
- Rahic speels about being automatics is not outwith our aim
- Defeats follow and yet no activity as we use square pegs for round holes.
- Rotherham defeat- Kilgallon says it as it is. Crowd turn on Edin.
- WooH the game of poker Edin spoke about shows its hand as recruitement arrives.
- 1 week later, we sack the manager.

And to follow. We know what was to follow.

So was the game of poker Edin spoke to the T&A about early January worth it? To save a few pennys!

 

I agree with a lot of that. The window was a shocker and all of the transfer committee are responsible for how unprepared we seem to be.

Just saying that when you said we had no signings in January it wasn't strictly true,

Just one other thing though. We keep hearing that we had no fit fullbacks at Yeovil however from memory we had Kilgallon, Robinson (who played fullback against Oxford), Thompson & Hanson available. Is it ideal? Nope. Should we have had enough to be able to put out two full backs to be competitive against Yeovil.......Clearly yes.

 

The worst thing this club can do is to appoint a young novice manager when the likes of a wannabe head coach wants involved.

Grayson is what is needed full stop. Wont stand for interference.

 

In reality statistics can be manipulated to suit any agenda, exactly what you're doing here. Win % doesn't actually mean that much when there isn't that much in it, obviously if someone has 100% then yes it would. But importance of games also comes into it.

If you are so hell bent in these stats being so important, can you answer me this. Given that Peter Taylor had a better win rate than Parkinson and Jewell and quite a close win rate to McCall over 2 spells, would you rate Taylor as a better manager than two of them names? Simon Grayson could win his last two matches and his win % will increase quite a bit, it will still be meaningless though.

Personally I think it's more important to judge managers on achievements, but maybe that's now an old fashioned view.

 

Winner.

 

Have you seen Jacob. Honestly hate having a go and hopefully comes good but is sadly lacking.

Hanson and Raeder started. Enough said And only other fir Defender Thompson. Nuff said.

Squad was lacking then. not in last day of window when you show your hand in poker and try and save a few pennys in doing so.

 

Yeah I've seen him. Is he good enough for league one? Nope. Should he be the difference between winning and losing against Yeovil in an otherwise I'd strong team. Definitely not.

Just saying. We had full backs available. They might only have been Thompson as an option on the right or Kilgallon and Robinson on the left but options were still there..

 

Correct hence looking at games in charge is important. That is agreed 100%

You can have a 50% win ratio and managed two games. But lets no dilute what some where saying that is was sentimental reasoning for liking McCall.

I stated he won manager of the year awards in Scotland, he got Motherwell into the champions league, fa cuo finalists, league semi finalists and managed to build 3 teams in 3 seasons that finished 3, 2nd and 2nd respectively.

Yet some think that becuase it a mickey mouse league it is no feat. I get the standard issue but to dismiss is lacking brain cell mentality.

He then arrives here and has the best win% since McFarland. In doing so we play some lovely football and loose out in a promotion final to an offside goal against a much stronger Millwall. Our budget was not great yet some seem to dismiss this. Our player of the year last awards last season showed the unity and togetherness the team has. Awesome. We went undefeated at home and won the award for cleanest team regarding bookings as we played football.

A terrible recruitment over the summer (some say it was mccalls players ;-) ) yet we are still punching above our weight, McCall continues to stack up the wins and points percents (yet some dismiss this) and finally after no backing he is fired by a chairman that wanted rid in the summer 2017.

And to finalise the insults further when a proven manager can do no better, we get he was really only good due to sentimental reasons. Beggars beleif.

You may not like Stuart as a person, you may say his stats means shit. That your call.

I myself think the man done wonders and definitely deserved the medal he spoke about working under the likes of Edin. I then asked would Parky have survived 1 win in 21 and being knocked out the 3 cups in the first round that happened a few years back. Dont know was the reply.

No one bloody knows but using logic, he would not have.

 

Your missing the point 100% we had an option in goalkeeper that day we played Raeder with George as a sub. No one is saying there was no options. What is being said are the options good enough! Edin said the week later because we were in striking distance to Rovers he wanted to push for automatics!

Surely the most disillusional could see we got to where we were by punching above our weight and to achieve anything more recruitment and good recruitment was need then!

 

I hope this isn't aimed at me, as he was my hero growing up, and he's one of the best people around.

He did a good job as manager, but a few are over stating it tbh. We had a good season which after it had finished, we were still in the same league as the season before. From what I saw of Bolton over the season, we had the better team even with their bigger budget, but they were the ones who went up.

He shouldn't have been sacked in February, but it was probably best that he went, as most managers will tell you the most important relationship at a club is between Chairman and Manager/coach. Considering his and Edin's relationship he wouldn't have been here in the summer either way.

 

Dont think it being overstated in all honesty it reads to me on here anyway its understated.

Then again thats my view.

Parky went to yeovil in 2015 in the league and lost, it happens. Especially in the cup.

How many fullbacks did parky have that day, and the quality ;-)

Just read he lost at home to them too that season.

Just to end this. If you think McCalls Bradford played better than Phils Bolton then surely that a feather in the McCall cap as budgets were massively different.

I know you are using this sentence to show McCall should have went up and Parky not but Parkys squad was much better and that tells over a season. We had too many draws until Wyke arrived.

 

if we'd have played Thompson on the right, and Kill at LB who was playing centre half?

because we didn't have any of them either aswell as fullbacks. - another fault of the recruitment process/team.

 

You did say we had no full backs but I won't get bogged down in semantics.

Yes. I would say Raeder and Hanson alongside the rest of the team that day should have had enough to beat a Yeovil team who hadn't won in about 6 games.

 

Ricc, Killa went off injured at 0-0 (by christ the lad needed a rest, top pro) so you cant utilise him.

think we could have utilised dieng as centre half and brought on devine, thats options ;-)

thanks Edin.

 

Give it Edin since he has the controls of a manager. See what the lad can do

 

Well parky could not beat them in two attempts in 2 seasons before. You underestimated a team like yeovil away in the FA cup at your peril.

And that was with a back four of Meredith, McArdle, Davies, Darby.

when he lost 3-1 at home he had Meredith, McArdle, Sheehan, Darby.

McCall after injurys had this line up that lost two goals

Tyrel (not full back) Vince Thompson Hanson

NOW scream - SAVING THE PENNYS. There was no alternatives in the squad. Hendrie was told to do 1

unless patrick, george or gibson could play centre back or full back

 

Thompson was on the bench wasn't he? I thought Vincelot played?