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Who do you want as Manager?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Inspector, May 1, 2018.

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Next Manager in charge?

  1. McCall back.

  2. Grayson to stay on.

  3. New younger manager.

  4. Parky

  5. Non of the above, please state.

  6. A Foreign Manager

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  1. Park bantam

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    I will give you the facts that count
    Year in year progress from a much lower base
    Promotion
    A major cup final
    One of the biggest cup shocks in history as against hardly any cup wins
    And responsible for a major upturn in the club finances

    You are wasting your time trying to say that Stuart’s stats come anywhere near Parky,s where it mattered
     
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  2. Aaron Baker

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    When you're comparing the two (including when you think about the runs in your previous post) then once again you need context.

    In pretty much all of McCall's season's the target was promotion - both in league one and league two. Whereas in at least 2 of Parkinson's seasons his target was to avoid relegation or consolidate.

    Parkinson also had at least 2 significant distractions in terms of the cup runs. Something McCall never had.

    Parkinson's overall stats will always look worse because of his first season and the fact he then had a season adjusting to a new league.

    As always with stats then context is important to lead you to the correct conclusion.

    That's not to say that McCall should have been sacked for his poor run but the facts and figures comparing the two aren't quite apples and apples.
     
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  3. Urban Soldier

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    Ha ha, take out the cup and base it on bread and butter league. It may hurt but Stuart managed to do in 1 season that Phil could not in many. Get to a league cup final.

    You may dismiss stats but take away PhIls cup run and his stats are not that great.
     
  4. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter
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    Great enough to show progress every season and to deliver when it mattered
     
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  5. Aaron Baker

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    Think you've got that the wrong way around!
     
  6. Urban Soldier

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    Ye in League 1 McCalls stats are way better than Phils in the league but because our owner (deluded) wants promotion with a mid table budget he must do this despite a lesser budget to Phils in past years but from realistic chairpersons?

    Does not make sense. You are been hoodwinked by the we are going for auto next time (Rupp) and we are pushing for a top 2 (Rahic) mentality.
     
  7. Park bantam

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    Ha ha
     
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  8. Bronco

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    That's your personal preference and fair comment, but we have got to a play off place with both types of football, (I know this comment will not be liked) but I think if Hanson had been available for both Millwall games we would have had a far better chance of advancing to the Wembley play off final under Phil Parkinson.
     
  9. Urban Soldier

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    all win % chart inc all competitive games. Sorry got this wrong, McCall has the best League stats since McFarland (Best ever) and in all comps since Dolan not Cherry.
     

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  10. Klaatu

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    Has Gary Jones got his coaching badges?
     
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  11. Park bantam

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    Win percentages mean nowt it’s winning the matches that count and being able to stop the rot when it sets in that counts
     
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  12. Urban Soldier

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    and being sacked without backing.

    I showed you many examples were Phil had horrible / terrible runs. If he was sacked in any of them. Then what?

    Would Edin put up with 1 win from 21?
     
  13. Park bantam

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    He was sacked after a terrible run where he admitted he had no answer. He had a terrible run the first time he was here he had no answer. As was stated in another Post Parky took over a team described as the worst in our history it took some turning round. And another was just after promotion where we were finding our feet.
     
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  14. trevor

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    If the recruitment team (Abbott/McCall) are useless at judging players and bring players that are not able to play at the level required then even the best manager in the world would struggle to get them to compete,
    What we need now is a clear out of players that are not good enough and a manager who can judge players that can play at this level and above and a board to back him with the means to acquire them, Although it is always tempting to go for the young new coach who may bring success or not the smart move is to keep Grayson happy by giving him the tools and resources to rebuild the playing side for the future
     
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    For all I would prefer Grayson to stay on, it looks unlikely.

    So I've voted for a younger Manager, in the hope players can identify with him, as well as bringing a fresh approach and up to date method of coaching. Bellamy would not be a bad call - He has interviewed 'well' for other positions, so he must have 'something' going for him.

    Edit ....... Offer Bellamy a 6 month contract (He'd be tempted to take it), with an option, in Citys favour to extend a further 18 months in January. :)
     
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  16. Aaron Baker

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    We're not talking about next season though. Whether the chairmen are more realistic is debatable though. I seem to remember PP having to scrabble around to sign trialists including Morais on 6 month contracts but still being expected to achieve promotion.

    McCall's stats are better partly because he was starting from a different base. He was building from a core group of players who had just been beat by Millwall in the play offs.
     
  17. Urban Soldier

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    Park Bantam you in all honesty are the most deluded poster on this forum. I loved Parkie but in all honesty answer me this, and if your answer is what I expect then have alook in the mirror.

    Would Edin have stood for the run of 1 win in 21, and that was the season we We got put out all cups in the 1st round with a 5-0 mauling at Hartlepool, 3-0 at Rotherham, and a 2-1 to Udders.

    Easily forgotten about eh?
     
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  18. Park bantam

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    The answer is I don’t know. But I do know that he had far more in the bank than Stuart. You love calling me deluded but your the one trying to justify the unjustifiable and are deluded
     
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    how many of those players had us 8 points above Rotherham and 1 point behind Blackburn this January, yes 2018!

    When we were crying out for players and none came. Thanks Edin
     
  20. Urban Soldier

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    just as expected. Delusional.
     

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