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I have suggested this in previous posts. We want a top table side but we want someone else to fund it. Maybe its a Bradford council estate attitude. Downbeat people looking for something without actually have to work or commit anything of their own to it. We scream that the owner should be putting more in but we are not prepared to put more in. and finally I don't buy the Bradford is a poor city can't afford more than 140 a year... Thats just a easy cop out excuse.

 

I want to see the stadium full too. But i also want to watch a quality City team.

There's a well established assumption that the only way we can sell STs in reasonably high volume is through significantly underpricing the cost. And that may be a correct assumption, I'm just testing it and questioning whether mindsets have changed. Because of every ST holder I've spoken to who've deliberated over renewing next season, not one has mentioned price. They've all talked about the quality of football, prospects of promotion and direction of the club. And between discussions in-person and online, that's a sample group of 15-20 people from all different backgrounds and economic standing.

The issue is one of trust and credibility now, which I think makes a price increase difficult. But as a principle i think the whole 'price increases will stop people going' line is out dated. I honestly think that the vast majority of those with STs, if given the choice:

A) current pricing and the manager gets a 2m budget or

B) £250 for adults (similar pricing as now for concessions) and the manager gets a 3m budget

The vast majority would choose B. I would. You would.

Maybe I'm wrong. What would others choose?

 

£20 is too much for a kids season ticket? You must be joking !

 

Bastards have ripped us off by £5.
They best get that bid in for Harry kane now.

 

The average tenure of a manager across the FL is usually somewhere just under 1 1/2 years.

If the primary criteria for the club is "the Head Coach we appoint must have the proven ability to develop a team over a longer-term period" then there aren't going to be many existing managers who will be able to claim that they tick that box. However, there will probably be plenty of up and coming youth/academy coaches looking for a step up to a 1st team position who will pass that requirement.

 

We're fu&ked under these clowns

@wetherbywhaler you know it deep down also.

 

They don't really mean that they want the head coach to develop the young players himself, like you say their employment will be too short for that and it's the job of the youth team coaches anyway.

I'm assuming what they really mean is that they are looking for somebody who is willing to try the youngsters out in the first team. Deep joy!!

 

Nothing to do with Luke Hendrie or Yeovil. I'm just going off his own quotes. Reffering to himself as director of football, telling us how PP could bounce off his ideas, signing/ releasing players without McCall knowing, part of the transfer committee etc etc. He's been very much involved. A chairman should sit back and let the professionals get on with it.

 

I’m fine in principle with what they’ve said.

Two problems though:

1) A head coach needs a Sporting Director and if Edin is still doing that job then it proves that he’s learnt nothing. We need to recruit for a qualified Sporting Director too.
2) Who is charge of player recruitment? Again if the answer is Edin it proves that they’ve learnt nothing.

 

Tyrell Robinson?

Also he was clearly “improving each player” given he had that squad top 6, which they obviously weren’t good enough for!

 

I wish Greg good health but having him play a key role is a joke.

Nonetheless, at least we know where we stand.

 

Sorry @Captain Grumpy I don't see the comparison to Huddersfield Town they have a chairman who was quite happy to write off £5/6 m every season, plus they used the loan market both last season and this, something our owners told us they did'nt want Stuart to do, we want to bring our own young players through was their goal.



Our chairman can't have it both ways.

 

We had a very bad run of form, it happens.

We should still have stuck with McCall.

What was the worst that would have happened?

 

Didn't Stuart walk ?, maybe we knew what the situation was in those days we knew the score with Julian & Mark they told us often enough, we run a deficit and if we don't get a Cup run we will sell one of our asset to help clear the deficit, and yes I believe the majority trusted Mark & Julian because they were Bradford City fans whether that was relevant or not.
These guys had no previous experience of running a football club, they come in changed things from the off when they told us they wouldn't "why would we we've seen how successful it has been run for the last 5/6 season" then did the opposite, Parky walks and they appoint McCall and Greg and still don't accept that they are told “I’ve had 30-odd years in the game, and you build up certain experiences. Edin wanted to bring in different things, and that’s fine. We had to find a way, find common ground. Give and take. But Edin’s not been in football. He’s certainly not been in the football business. Edin’s been a successful businessman, but running a football club is different.”
A lot of what has gone on this season is of their own doing and to be making statements that they have made mistakes and will learn sounds hollow when they were told from the beginning by professionals who been in the game as long as Stuart and Greg had and it wouldn't surprise me if Parky didn't have his say but did they take any notice.
Only one poster taking up arms I dont think he will get many supporting his vision, not yet anyway but as I say who knows what the future holds.

 

agree. There were absolutely zero signs that he was going to turn things around and he has a history of not being able to do so. Getting the sack when he did was ideal for him, he leaves with some credit and he gets the benefit of the doubt. "he left us in 6th" often gets mentioned with little or no regard to the fact that were diabolical prior to his dismissal and were sliding down the table. Whether we had McCall or Grayson, I'm not sure it would have made a difference. He deserves a huge amount of credit for getting us into the playoffs in the first place but this team were never good enough for promotion and we would have ended up midtable either way.

 

Bang on. we were falling like a stone.

 

Obviously we will never know one way or the other. I posted at the time of his sacking, that we had just lost our only chance of staying in the playoffs. This wasn’t because Stuart is hero or any other such notion, sometimes you have let the storm hit you rather than trying to run through it. Our results were abysmal for whatever reason, but he knew those players, he had already galvanised them into top six, a few loan players and I would have backed him to get us there. Many fans don’t believe that, but I do. I do not think he would have renewed his contract in the summer, too much like hard work being the middle man between Edin and the players. Chairman have a responsibility to back their manager through the hard times as well as the good times. I have been told that Stuart and Edin did not get on, my response to that is grow up and behave like adults, find a way through for the sake of the club. They sacked Stuart because it was an easy way out, and brought Simon in. If they have learnt from all of that, that can only be good. However, this club has lost a valuable opportunity to gain promotion which is hard for all of us to take.

Yes I am envious of Huudersfield Town, they have a Town Fan and a man who is extremely rich, and is prepared to plug the losses.

 

I honestly don’t think the aim now is to be a power in League One next season.

 

I can guarantee you Park that they accept PR has been their biggest downfall. They have admitted they are businessmen and not PR people in any way. Steps are being taken to rectify this side of things.

 

The posh have according to a report I saw recently banked over 22 million in player sales in recent years. They don’t have the ground capacity or crowd potential we have and whilst they have spent a bit a lot has gone back into the club. If we generate that sort of money it would be great