Stuart return?

Sorry not micheal I meant Andrew.....

 

And Stu was so effective in L2

Amazed at your poo pooing of the facts. We will need a manager who has years of experience in the football league so they can spot the best for what we need and is also a good motivator and builder of team spirit, simply because, like it or not we're stuck with lot of the same players who have failed

To do this, you want a Manager with almost no success in these leagues, instead of one who's got the T-shirt

Popcorn time

 

Not talking about us!! I mean Bowyer at Blackpool

 

Banbrotam in slagging off City icon McCall shocker.

I sometimes wonder if he and Park are city fans at all. are you on here posing as a City fan but saying things no sane City fan would say, to see the reaction for a laugh? that's what it looks like most of the time. between this and saying that Akpan can thrive under Bowyer's style of management despite him been the complete opposite of Bowyer's style of player one could be forgiven for thinking you are absolutely off your rocker. or blind.

anyway - McCall isn't going to come back anyway, so it's a bit of a moot point. I rate him, think he can be successful and I'd take him back with open arms given how he was royally shafted last time and yet still achieved big things.
wherever he finds himself next I sincerely hope he rams a few people's disrespectful comments down their throats and proves a point.

 

that’s a bit rich coming from you ricc, who slags the club off at any chance given.

i’ll reiterate my point to you yesterday, you say the club and fans need ambition and shouldn’t settle for failure yet you want a manager who has zero promotions, zero big cup wins, zero success in guiding a team from any division to a higher one let alone from league two to league one, over a manager that does. that’s not logical.

yesterday you even suggested mccall be given 18 months to do it - you wouldn’t give any other manager that amount of time. given their track records and mangerial ‘successes’ if you have the next manager of bradford city as mccall vs bowyer for the next 18 months with total control over playing staff and budget then i’m sorry but there’s only one winner. unless another candidate becomes available then it has to be bowyer.

we know your allegiances to mccall, it’s clear to see and you ask if park and banbrotam are city fans at all but it’s coming clearer that you’re giving the impression that you want mccall to do better than bradford city football club.

 

That isn't true. and how the hell do you know?

 

some people could learn a lot from this post.

there IS a way to say you wouldn't want McCall back as manager without slagging him off, under miming his achievements and being completely disrespectful.


fair point, Rod, well put.

 

Actually I think we are a bit over sensitive when it comes to Stuart.

The language being used is similar to that being used regarding other individuals and no one bats an eyelid.

As a player Stuart deserves our respect as a manager then the facts speak for them selves. No promotions, no cup runs and fired twice in a little over a year (The second time after significant board support and whilst managing in an evironment he states and many in here state he needs).

Speaking plainly is not necessarily a mark of disrespect.

As a manager Stuart is ano for me also. Nothing he has done to date would fill me with anything like confidence and it would simply drive division in the club further.

Personally I wouldn't have him back, in any capacity until we are in a much stronger position.

 

And this from the guy who continually slates one of our most successful managers in our history and yet yearns for one who has had every opportunity yet failed to deliver

 

I think inferring that he doesn't deserve any respect as a manager is in its self disrespectful.

I don't think we should under estimate the job he did with Motherwell, who are as unfashionable and absolutely flat broke as you can get. 3rd place, and 2 second places, Semi Final of the Scottish league Cup, and final of the Scottish Cup, and of course going into European competition.
all this with losing key players every single summer and having to replace them. that's no easy feat. you don't see them, or indeed any equivalent Scottish team doing the same. the likes of Aberdeen and Hearts have more resources and are bigger clubs than Motherwell ever were.

and I, and many others think he did a terrific job back here - operating under the regime of the single most inept, megalomaniac crazy delusional club owner ever - and he got us to within minutes of a promotion to the Championship. that summer he lost all his best players from that squad, had to replace them on a lower budget, with players foisted upon him by aforementioned idiot, and had them in the play off places all season, until he was sacked. his replacement Simon Grayson who is lauded as a promotion expert in this division lost most of his matches in charge and couldn't get anywhere near the results Stuart managed to produce with them.

whether you would want him back or not, lets not pretend he's some sort of perennial failure as a manager when it simply isn't the case.

 

What you seem to be forgetting was the warning signs from said poster regarding rahic yourself and others hounded him about the negativity surrounding this and look where we are now.

 

I would direct you to my post below yours.

 

What does that have to do with his refusal of any reasonable debate and analysis of McCall's management ability?

 

again. see my earlier post.

 

It won't count @Ricc because was in Scotland.

 

Read the comment I'm replying too.

 

I'd say he has answered that quite well no refusal to answer or debate.

 

I think you're overplaying the achievements in Scotland. All non-Old Firm clubs are broke and unfashionable and the high league positions were definitely assisted by Rangers' demise. Realistically every club in Scotland moved up a place when Rangers were made to start from the bottom.

Motherwell had finished 3rd in the League (with Rangers in it) just 3 years prior to McCall taken over and they'd finished 5th and 6th in the two years prior. They weren't some perpetually relegation threatened team - well not until the year he was left anyway.

He got to the final of the Scottish Cup but on route he played Dundee, Stranraer, Dundee United and St Johnstone. No games that they would be expected to lose. Motherwell have also got through to two cup finals since he has left, once again displaying that the achievement isn't out of step for a club such as Motherwell in the post Rangers New-Co era.

 

Admin.

Can we move this thread to General Chat?

It is not Bradford City related. It is the discussion of SMs managerial career.