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Stuart return?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Nick_W_, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. trevor

    trevor Squad Player
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    Not been impressed with Bowyer so far but would not swap him for McCall, As much as Bowyer has had a so so start he may just be the one to rebuild the playing side
     
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  2. Storck

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    I’ll say it again.

    Don’t particularly care who the manager is, just want them appointed either before end of season or in the first week after to give them the full close season.

    If that happens it will be first time in 4 years where we have known who the manager is at that point.
     
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  3. Bronco

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    I really don't know how you come to that conclusion because I replied to @Feats Don't Fail Me Now@Feats Don't Fail Me Now that posts with regards Stuart McCall are very much Bradford City.
    I agree up to a point with regards his managerial career as a whole with us because I don;t care how well or poorly he did elsewhere it didn't effect us, but taking his Bradford City managerial career it's better than a lot and far better than many.
     
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  5. bantamJS

    bantamJS Fringe Player

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    How dare they speak about Stuart like that?! I'm sure a few people on here, ahummm, will be crying themselves to sleep tonight knowing people can say such mean things.....
     
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  6. How

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    Bit rich to say you continually slag off Parky
     
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  7. bantamlad92

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    Reminds me of city fans on here after a defeat, complete hysterical meltdown!
     
  8. banbrotam

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    OMG!! Fans do not have to be so sycophantically loyal to any former players, that they are allowed to be able to do anything because they gave us good memories

    There is nothing in Stuart's English League management record, that can even remotely suggest he is the person for the current job

    First time, he managed us in a similar position (assuming we go down) and failed

    The second time he succeeded in his first season, but any neutral would have a strong argument in saying that anyone taking over from the great set up PP left, would do well. But let's give Stuart unconditional praise for our best season since 98/99

    The big test would be, as usual with Stuart's English club management career, how does he then cope with a set back and the sense of failure, that failed L1 play-off teams nearly always suffer (ie Leyton Orient, Shrewsbury, Notts County (when we beat them) etc). Would he do what Bowyer did at even worse relegated Blackpool and use the toxic presence of a meglomaniac to his advantage or not?. The spectacular fade out after that memorable Wigan win, answered that question. And by today's standards of club impatience he was justly sacked

    So on he goes to a club with an even more trigger happy owner (some of us did laugh at the irony of Stuart thinking that the Scunny chairman, would give him what Rahic never did, patience) and succeeds in only confirming what some of us sadly suspected. Legendary player. Very average lower league manager

    As usual, you need to look at what other fans are saying. Look at the Blackpool board's and you'll see fans who think Bowyer is the man who saved the club. Then look on the Scunny ones and see that they think the exact opposite of Stuart

    You need to apologise, for questioning the loyalty of City fans who have followed this club through thick and thin for more than 40 years, just because we think that it's laughable comparing Bowyer to McCall

    None of this detracts from what a great servant Stuart has been
     
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  9. Park bantam

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    How many managers have seasons at the job nobod
    As it makes clear on there he got good backing in January as well
     
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  10. Ricc

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    you sicken me.


    I'm not apologising for calling you out on not being a true City fan, I stand by my comment that there is no way on this earth you can be. otherwise you wouldn't talk such complete and utter nonsense and continually slag off it's favourite son.


    also - the 'great set-up' that PP left behind?? you're kidding, right? we had about 7 players, no backroom staff and brand new owners. there was literally no set up left behind, great or otherwise. you are completely and utterly blinkered to anything Stuart might achieve because you refuse to admit when you're wrong. just like with the Edin Rahic situation.
     
  11. Feats Don't Fail Me Now

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    @Ricc@Ricc sorry but for a number of supporters on here there is no objectivity when it comes to SM. he could drag us into the Nationsl League and they would look to blame someone, anyone, but him.

    I am not going to get pulled into an argument on him but to be fired twice in 15 months where both teams hit slumps and he couldn't get them out of it added to his zero achievements in his first spell with us, for me anyway, this says we shouldn't be getting involved. We need to move on and Stuart is not the right appointment.
     
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    I think @Ricc@Ricc has a shrine for Stuart in his bedroom to fall asleep next to at night. Never seen someone react so up tight about a ex manager. You wouldn't be like this regarding Jacko would you, who some people can argue, is the same as Stuart in regards to playing for City.

    McCall as a player - legend.
    McCall as a manager - at best, average.

    Get over it!
     
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  13. Ricc

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    and I think you're either about 12, or someone who started supporting City in 2013. otherwise you'd know what Stuart McCall means to the club, and what he's about.


    also - I make no secret of the fact Stuart is one of my heros, and always will be. I don't really think that's something to mock, but there you go.
     
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  14. Bronco

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    What I do find a little strange is mention Phil Parkinson who brought us sucsess over the 5/6 season he was manager here and he's a fraud, dinosaur, etc @Ricc@Ricc gives him no credit at all, yet as much as I like Stuart for his time and what he's done for Bradford City, Stuarts managerial record does not compare with Phil Parkinson's time at our club, and I think we all accept that, well most do ;).
     
  15. Park bantam

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    You are not a city fan you are a fan of Stuart full stop
     
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  16. Aaron Baker

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    Can you imagine @Ricc@Ricc if McCall achieved a fraction of what Parkinson has done as a manager?

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  17. Park bantam

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    You really should accept that some people loved Stuart as a player the best I have seen in city colours but don’t rate him as a manager
     
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  18. Ricc

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    And you are wrong. Much like you’re wrong about most things.
     
  19. Bronco

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    We will never know what Stuart might have achieved if the owners had done what they said they would do and most right minded owners would have done and that was back him the season after our Wembley play off final.
    I can't see how anyone could dispute that, but instead of helping the lad they did the oppsite and dismantled the squad, but as we know it was Stuart who carried the can when he could not continue delivering what he had done previously in his 18 months at Valley Parade.
    We can debate his managerial record elsewhere but apart from what we read in the media we not aware of the inner workings at those club, many didnt believe the situation he worked under at Valley Parade on a day to day basis until quite resently.
     
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    I will give you an example of the difference between Stuart and Parky on two occasions with us his team have slumped from good positions and it happened again at Scunthorpe he won manager of the month and his team slumped till he got the sack. Remember the season under Parky when we got to the final and won promotion playing a vast amount of games. After the final the results weren’t coming and it looked like we were going to miss out on the play offs I remember a team meeting after which we went on a great run and sneaked into the play offs. Stuart is great when things are going well and is one of the lads. But has no answer when there is a slump
     
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