Sack the manager

I didn't want Doyle to come back because I genuinely believed (and still do) that the best outcome for us was for him to stay at Swindon. Of course I will support him whilst he remains playing for us and I hope I am proved massively wrong, but right now, I don't feel overly optimistic about his return, a feeling I suspect Doyle himself shares.

 

He was. He opted against it and told us he’s happy with Drury.

 

Bowyer reminds me of the Harry Enfield character
Tim - Nice But Dim.
Tactically clueless.

 

Tell that to the fans who have endured the dross served up at the last 4 away games, all long distance and little reward. It’s a huge kick in the balls to fans when they spend so much hard earned cash following this team. Last season it was the players not turning up, however now we have a decent squad you can only blame the manager. Absolutely clueless he is, how on earth do you reach this stage of a season and still not know your best starting 11 or have a settled formation?? GB got away with his poor management last season as they weren’t his players, and rightly so. He now has a team at his disposal who are players he has chosen not to offload and ones he has signed, so this speaks volumes to me

“we go again” he said yesterday in his interview. Idiot

 

After that I would hope for JR to come out on Monday with some strong words. He needs to back his manager (or sack him) and make some strong statements about our transfer plans this month and how we are going all out for promotion etc. To say nothing would be poor. The season can still go either way. It would be reassuring to have reaffirmation the club is determined to go in the right direction not just waiting to see what happens.

 

But he needs help, he is a great man manager apparently and according to the players who appear to like him. Don’t dismiss that because we have had a fractious team room for awhile before he arrived. He is very good defensively. However, I beginning to think that he is tactically weak and has a stubborn streak or it maybe he just doesn’t know or fears changing the set to be more attacking. He needs somebody he can work with who will take training and able to introduce more exciting and creative choices to train the players and is able to advise the manager on what is the best set up with any teams.

 

If he had a style I'd agree with you but he hasn't. He's tried every system going and then added a few of his own, like playing Doyle as a no. 10. He changes the team all the time with no discernible improvement. He's signed an endless number of midfielders, and given contracts to some we already had, and yet this is the weakest part of the team. He has three of the best strikers we could hope for in this division and yet all season we've struggled to score. His post-match analyses make no sense. He hasn't shown any ability to galvanise and inspire the players or the fans. His teams are beyond boring and so is he. I'm sorry, but the scales have fallen from my eyes after yesterday. I've tried to think positively about him, because changing managers all the time is a well-known path to failure, but I've just been fooling myself. He's not the man this club needs and he's getting worse with each passing week.

 

Playing 442 because we fans were crying out for it just shows how weak he is.

 

I can understand your frustration. I don't go away and haven't for years, so perhaps I have a longer tolerance threshold than most. For me, it is just my team and I want to see us win - irrespective of whether it is entertaining or not. I just choose to get my kicks on a weekend from not watching City when they are away. But I guess I would probably think a bit differently if I went away.

Either way, sacking a manager when we are in the playoffs just won't happen. We will have learnt our lesson after Stuart.

 

I don’t think it was anything to do with the fans, it was to do with accommodating Doyle and his Captain. I want him gone but accept it might be at the end of the season, I don’t see him taking us forward as a club given how the last 9 months have panned out on the pitch/results (uninspiring), but I think he always had a potential banana skin yesterday, just imagine the reaction if Doyle hadn’t started.

 

I suspect he said that because he had both hands tied behind his back by Rupp

 

So in a few weeks if we are not in the play offs will it happen?

That's just weak minded to think let's not get rid because we're in the a play off spot.

The aim of the club is automatic promotion not play offs.

If the club feel that Bowyer isn't going to achieve that he needs to go ASAP! Fans are ready to explode.

 

We are still in contention for automatic promotion though.

Yesterday's result was terrible and the performance was lamentable, but if we take out the emotion, in what is a results-based business, we were unbeaten in eight prior to that. Bowyer will get more time due to that.

I just wish we had been due a home game for Doyle to return in - we are pathetic away at the moment but at home we can beat anybody.

 

Most teams fear us at VP, unnecessarily. If more teams had a bit of a go, they'd probably fare ok.

 

We also could be outside the play offs in a few weeks.

Bowyer is making hard work of this league and looks like he's struggling.

Fans are bored and becoming frustrated.

I doubt no one are rushing to buy their season tickets.

You can't just think we are in contention let's not sack him. Other things to think about and you have hardcore fans not wanting to go to away games... bigger picture!

 

Don't agree with that. We have a tendency to start slowly but we fought back from 1-0 down to draw at Swindon. A team that isn't playing for the manager could have just given up there.

 

The problem is that you cannot listen to the fans. Most football fans are absolute buffoons who know nothing. The idiots drove McCall out of the club when the sensible amongt the fanbase said he was working miracles when his budget had been cut.

The idiots wanted Todd out and we went down. The idiots wanted Parkinson out in his first season and look how that turned out. Some other times the idiots were right and sacking was the right option - but they were times when we were in dire straights and not the play offs.

But there are a lot of idiots supporting City who need hushing. If we listened to them and sacked when the fans called for it, for fear of them not turning up, we'd go through several managers a year.

If the fans stop coming then they aren't proper fans. Proper fans stick with the club through thick and thin, especially given the price of our tickets. If we lose some of the know nothings, that isn't such a bad thing if it dims the criticism.

 

You know what, I'd actually disagree. I think most teams who have come here this season have had a go at us. Even Morecambe, a Derek Adams side, played us off the park at times and they were second bottom.

The fear factor for me isn't there this season. Under Stuart teams came here and parked the bus every week because not only were we well placed in the table, other teams knew we were a really good fluid side who would take them apart if they came at us. I haven't had that impression from a visiting side once this season with maybe the exception of FGR.