Racist incident

Happy days , oddly.

 

It was clear as day where it was on ifollow G. The only thing missing ..,sound.

 

I, rather amusingly, got some abuse from some Hull fans. It was back in the 84/85 promotion season and they were sort of 'fenced' away from us (just before Heysel of course)

It didn't stop them hilarious making monkey gestures at me and so I waved back and blew em a kiss.

You may remember it was a good day as we won 2-0. It was memorable for our goalie, Eric McManus getting sent off.

What a day!!

 

Appreciate the comments on here, but we are wasting time discussing the actions of an idiot.

I'm sure the club will get the culprit and ban him.

Without been glib, it was the most entertaining event in the 2nd half.

 

I remember cec be taken off in tears in a Derby match at Park avenue the abuse he got was terrible a lot of it was from his own teams fans

 

I agree it’s pointless
One moronic fan from thousands ain’t gonna get us bans or points deducted as the club cannot foresee that happening
Just ban the cu@@ and move on

What will get us bans or points is the flare throwing of which the club can do more to stop
They can narrow this down to local games where it happens frequently and not the long haul games where they won’t travel.

 

What more can the club do regarding 'smoke canisters'? It's like the racism stuff, they put out notice after notice to fans warning them of the implications of bringing them into stadiums, even mentioning our history and the upset it can bring to people affected. I think we have to accept that we have folk in society who are beyond help and education, thick as mince sums them up to a tee. No amount of club intervention will change the mindset of these feckwits, it's a society problem where folk think they can do what they like without a thought for others.

 

Is it, not where we sit.

 

One idiot (if found guilty) ruins the reputation of other fans. Ban them and re educate. Anyone found being racist or any other ist should have to apologise in person to who they directed it at.

 

One clown shouting racial abuse at any sporting event is one to many, it's far better than it was years ago as others have said, re educate good luck with that they are morons who possibly hear it and use it in their every day life.

My point was more that things can be pointed out to stewards, then they can deal with the situation, be it drinking or racial comments.

 

Yes, my opinion. Based on 25 years of working in the mental health system, until a few years ago, for most of which I was an Approved Social Worker/Approved Mental Health Professional (AMHP) doing regular Mental Health Act Assessments, making the decisions on whether to ‘section’ hundreds of people, attending scores of Mental Health Review Tribunals (where contested release decisions are made) including several at Rampton High Security Mental Hospital. I’ve tutored scores of professionals to gain their AMHP qualifications and I also acted as a Best Interests Assessor under the Mental Capacity Act.

Your perception that the system is too lax, releasing too many dangerous people into the community, couldn’t be further from the truth. The exact opposite is the case. Thousands of people are routinely incarcerated on the vague notion that they might possibly cause harm (which most never do) and forced to take incredibly toxic major tranquilliser drugs that dope them to the eyeballs, blow them up like balloons, change their personalities and destroy grey brain cell matter. These drugs don’t actually treat any of their mental health problems, they just suppress them. It’s effectively keeping people permanently intoxicated.

Of course there are occasional mistakes, when people are released and cause harm. But these are minuscule compared to the numbers kept locked up for years without ever having committed crimes. Show me any system in life where no mistakes are ever made. There isn’t one. But, unlike the routine violence in society, which goes on daily with little comment, every occasional time there is an attack by a person released from the mental health system, it gets plastered all over national news with the cries of ‘how could this be allowed to happen?’, who screwed up? and ‘something must be done’.

If someone gets pissed and attacks someone outside a pub they’ll probably get a few months in prison. They’ll then be released. If they do it again they’ll get a slightly longer sentence etc etc. Some regularly violent people go in and out of prison routinely but still keep offending. They ‘do their time’ and are released. No one suggests locking them up for life (unless they commit murder). Yet, if a person with a mental health diagnosis commits a violent crime, or even just threatens to, society expects them to be locked up indefinitely until they can be proved to no longer be dangerous, which is actually impossible. It’s a total double standard. The facts show that most people with mental health issues are far more at risk from the public than the other way round. How many innocent mentally distressed people do you want us to lock up in order to prevent the occasional violent crime?

The medical model of mental health is broken. Psychiatry is no better at treating mental distress and has no more idea of the causes than it did 100 or more years ago. Any other branch of medicine would have been laughed out of medical college decades ago if its results were as bad as psychiatry. All they do is give people spurious, unscientific diagnoses and pump people full of drugs, many of which actually prolong the longevity of their distress and keep them permanently disabled on benefits, unable to work. Everywhere on the planet that western psychiatry extends its influence sees rapidly worsening recovery rates and far more people left permanently unable to work through drug induced disability.

We need a completely different system based on an acceptance of mental distress as a response to trauma rather than ‘illness’ and a massive switch towards various forms of therapy that have been proven to be more effective than drugs at easing mental distress. But the system is totally dominated by medical model psychiatrists and the multinational drug companies. Meanwhile, we lock up more and more people each year and keep millions doped up in the community.

Sorry for the long rant but you really pushed my buttons. The notion that Care in the Community has resulted in more people being harmed than in the old days of long stay ‘bins’ like High Royds and Scalebor Park is simply not supported by the facts. It’s a myth.

 

Term used extremely loosely

 

Yes society is full of these cretins but if the club can’t find a way to stop these numbskulls getting into the stadiums, then these will end up punishing the club

These aren’t individual's shouting an odd word here and there, they’re a collective and regulars to the away crowd

 

Feck me did you get ChatGPT or some other AI to write that

 

Has anyone idea what was said?

seems unusual nobody has come forward to support the player (if they have please correct me).

has the lad just misheard something?

 

People still drink and drive , use the phone whilst driving , speed , i could go on and on
Its human nature i am afraid.
As i said hopefully identified and banned from the stadium for a while,

 

Being a racist isn’t human nature!

 

You know what i mean Fordy and i would argue that racism was and is endemic in certain parts of the world, South Africa, southern states of the USA. So you could say it was part of their nature.
Any type of hatred has no place in the world, unfortunately the world is far from perfect.