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  1. Onside

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    Rose has every right to complain about the racism directed at him and other players. He also has the right to highlight the ineffective way the authorities are dealing with the problem. However,his comment about how much he spends on a night out in London was uncalled for in my view. It highlights how out of touch top footballers are with the ordinary fans who would never be in a position to spend that kind of money.

    I am also not sure his comment about ‘can’t wait to retire’ was in order either. He is obviously a very rich man, and would be in a position to retire now, and move onto what he intends to do for the rest of his working life. Once again total disregard for the ordinary supporter, who will work until their 70 and still have earned nowhere near what he has earned. When I had enough of my career, I retired as soon as I could losing money in the process, because I couldn’t stand it anymore, I had worked since I was 15, and retired at 65.

    I deplore racism at all levels, however it doesn’t give you the right to show open disregard for other disadvantaged groups. It may be unstandable given his emotions, and the football authorities need to deal with it. Furthermore, unless a child from 0-5 has been shown tolerance and a full acceptance of difference it is very difficult to turn it around beyond that age. Just my view of course.
     
  2. Hoochy-Min

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    You 'got us off' last time? Perhaps if we punished people for being racist it might have cleaned our fans up a bit.

    If we have a problem with a small section of our support we shouldn't brush it under the carpet and try to avoid bad press we should deal with it.
     
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  3. Steve1970

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    Surely the Efl /fa can't charge the club because some person on social media has wrote a racist message.
    Anyone could make a username up with a football connection to a club
    This has got to be dealt with by the police not the football league.
     
  4. wetherbywhaler

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    Another potential FA charge I will have to defend!! You may think this is rare but last season I had to defend the same claim made by a Bury player in the game at VP. I got us off and the media never made anything of it.
    I have made the point we have to get tough with ground bans and the like but I'm not a Director or Employee so, like Glenn Ackroyd, carry little weight if others don't want the work needed to keep us on the right side of things then the Club will suffer.
     
  5. simons (woking bantam)

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    I wouldn't really call him a City fan Damo, just some idiot who has realised he can cause a stir hiding behind his keypad - but yes embarrassing, shameful, cowardly and there is no room for racism
     
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  6. Rogered Tart

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    Social media user in attention seeking post shocker. A bloke sends a black player who scores the winner against his team a tweet full of banana emojis. This happens a hell of a lot on twitter/facebook etc, i remember a 'fan' sending Billy Sharp a tweet about his dead child, there was one the other week to Jack Grealish about his dead brother. You can punish it but you won't ever stop it, there are too many attention seeking tw@ts out there. The mail have given this muppet the attention he craved, better off ignoring the ignorant b@stards.
     
  7. Frank Castle

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    There was no discussion, it was removed on request not because of the report.

    Wow, there was nothing in the post for you to come to the conclusion, I would suggest perhaps you jumped to that conclusion based on your hostility towards Simon (which you have shown on a number of occasions). People cannot say anything negative about any minority without being tarred as a bigot nowadays.

    By the way, I can't stand any film with Kate Hudson in it, does that mean I'm anti-semetic? I find Joe Lycett really annoying, does that mean I'm homophobic? I think John Barnes' views on racism stupid, does that mean I'm racist? I find most women comedians unfunny, does that mean I'm sexist? Damn, that means I'm a racist, anti-semite, sexist homophobe.
     
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  8. Yorkieman

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    I am deeply offended by the term 'non-white'. As a white person I feel it is a slur on me that someone would say they are not like me. It has been designated as an offensive term yet the liberal left continue to use it without repercussions.

    I am also offended by the MOBO awards as there no MOWO awards. And I am eternally pi**ed of that many 'non-whites' can dance better than me and run faster.

    It is so easy for everyone to be offended over the slightest thing these days.

    Any true racism should be punished with a ban or a word from the police (or an arrest), but calling some a whiner is simply an opinion. To some people it might be an offensive opinion, but it is NOT racist. If you prevent opinions you also outlaw free speech and that is very worrying.
     
  9. bantam316

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    My god.. i remember when our fans were a credit to the club.. I’ve heard some racist language at VP from so called supporters towards some of our own.. terrible, need to get rid of these scum bags asap!
     
  10. banbrotam

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    Nothing will 'clean up' a fan, who's so immature that they'd do this in the first place. You'll have more chance of getting all crime stopped

    I said the same last week, there is too much oxygen of publicity given to them.

    The most effective method with racists to laugh at them and then ignore them - they are not going to be educated. Currently society does this 'outraged' thing and then every news media talks about for a few days - meanwhile the idiot if bragging to his mates how famous he/she is

    There are idiots everywhere in society and to be honest I don't really understand why clubs should be held responsible.
     
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  11. Wakey

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    I take great offence to your accusation that my comment had anything to do with the colour of his skin, if one of his white team mates had backed him up with the same comments I would have been of the same opinion. The thread's OP was talking about a specific part of Rose's comments since the game and it was pretty clear my whole post was in relation to his responce to the fine not any other comment he made. He has a right to speak out about racism but with this bit it turns into whining with a massive amount of bragging thrown in. He thinks the Montenegro FA should be punished to the tune of millions for what is a cultural thing that comes about because its a country thats almost exclusively Caucasian. It seems more he want them fined out of existence more for some kind of sense of revenge rather than wanting to improve things because he is targeting a sporting organisation that basically has no ability to make a significant social change and certainly not overnight. We certainly can't hold every nation upto the same standards as we do ourselves as every nation is at a different state of becoming more exposed to and accepting of minorities. These kinds of changes are slow step by step ones, just look at the UK. We are much better than we were in the 70's but its not perfect and its taken like 40 years to get there.
     
  12. king karl

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    For the record I removed Simon's post not because I thought it was a racist comment but because I wanted him to set up a personal account and not use his admin account which is for site maintenance and the prediction league

    Simon is a football fan with some valid opinions that can be controversial but at the same time interesting

    As a moderator or Admin you sometimes need to post in a different way than if you was a registered forum member

    This is why I asked Simon to set up a personal account.. if he had of posted the removed comment using his personal account I would not have removed it
     
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  13. Bronco

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  14. Rogered Tart

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    We have a national widescale problem of knife crime unprecented in my life time, violent crime is on the increase. Are we really that surprised that with the a large percentage of the populous being as thick as f*ck that they resort to name calling because thats what the majority of racial, homophobic hate crimes are based on. This is where i say you won't stop it, most of the offenders are just too damn thick to even think for themselves, let alone think about what comes out their mouths. You can try and educate or punish these people, won't make any difference. I was listening to a discussion on the radio with the kick it out campaign, they were saying they needed more money. To do what? stick more t-shirts on players? Yeah right.
    Want to try and deal with it? Take the lead from Raheem Sterling. The lad seems to talk a hell of a lot of sense on the matter.
     
  15. banbrotam

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    Great response folks. However, racists are given far too much 'air time' - I sometimes think we need to simply ignore them (but obviously punish)

    Like I used to do in the 70's in the school yard :thumbup:

    Racism has never ever affected my life or progress - simply because why would such a minority have an influence anyway
     
  16. brisbanebantams

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    yes you are. why should anyone have to put up with being abused due to anything let alone the colour of their skin? they aren't 'whinging' like you put it, they are highlighting an issue that has no place on football or society.
     
  17. Yorkieman

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    No. It simply stops any discussion, which is why we now live in a world where nobody in public service dare say anything about certain things. It is a form of free speech fascism.

    We should all know what does and does not constitute racism and nip it in the bud, but these days a lot of VERY serious things are getting brushed under the carpet due to this climate of fear.
     
  18. Onside

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    I am alarmed that somebody has felt the need to do that. I do wish ppl would start to debate racism in a mature and responsible manner. As I have already stated, the ability to change ppl’s thinking and therefore behaviour is limited. The type of education that would make a difference cannot be achieved by attending a anti racism course that lasts for a couple of hours.
     
  19. Craven Cottager

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    Surprised Montenegro hasn't changed its name yet.
     
  20. Hoochy-Min

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    Black players should be able to go about their living without being racially abused. If they are raising concerns about it they have every right to. They're not being a whiny little bitch.
     
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