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Do I get a percentage if that player is sold for a few million later on or are we just raising money so a multi millionaire gets a risk free punt?

 

It’s a private business, not a private members club. It’s not investing in the the local area, buying year three kids at local schools a City shirt like Accrington, it’s Stefan Rupp’s business and if he wants it to grow he needs to attract my money so I get something for it. Sell me a 1981 shirt signed by Ces Podd for my home office wall, sell me a non playing place in the squad, sell me a VIP day at a home match. He’s got to work to get the money out of my pocket.

I don’t get a share of the profits or the debts. A season ticket I never use and merchandise are all he’s having from me. If Stefan wants a transfer budget he can provide it himself.

If we fans chip in £150,000 to part fund a contract for Cooke and he’s sold for half a million, where does the profit go? Community projects? A food bank? Is it distributed amongst the fans who paid? Or does it go in Rupp’s pocket?

He bought the club, if he wants success he funds it or gives me something to make me part with my money. If I’m giving money away it’s going to charity, those who really need it, not a man worth hundreds of times what I am.

 

Gotta love this forum sometimes. Like being told off by a school teacher

 

This aint poker where your opponent doesn't know what cards you have. Gordon Gibb knows what options Bradford have at their disposal. Now, for the sake of this discussion, if you can give me one viable alternative that is actually available to Rupp and Sparks then let's hear it. And I mean viable, because if you are gonna go to the negotiating table and say your options are the Shay or Gigg Lane you are gonna be laughed out the building.

 

Huddersfield already have football and Rugby played there no chance of them allowing us to play there as well.
Some of our fans should get their heads out of their arses we will continue to pay rent for the next few years till the end of our present agreement and have little option but to renegotiate once this contract is up.

 

You do realise that we have more season ticket holders than the Shay has capacity?

The only realistic options would be Elland Road or the John Smiths. Neither of which would go down particularly well, even if those clubs would show us to share.

I can't even see it financially making that much difference either if I'm honest.

 

How many times do you need it explaining that the cost of renting VP is not the reason we are languishing in L2?

Years of bad decision making regarding ownership, managers, player purchases, team selections, tactics etc etc are why we are where we are.

The ground rental is reasonable and none of the viable alternatives would cost less, once you take all commercial factors into consideration. Your obsession with the rent is a red herring.

 

Walked away and gone where exactly? Odsal? Park Avenue? Thackley? Eccleshill Utd?

 

We the supporters have dipped deep in are pocket before in the 60s at St Georges Hall the 80s & the naughties
Now we are being asked again by sph1995
What did we get before
We kept are football club alive what's the difference between those 3 rescue act and Now nothing we are still in the bottom division of the football league & and the owners will walk away a lot richer
Nothing changes with Bradford city
Yes I will still buy my season ticket and attend games untill I am too old to get there but that is all I will pay into this club

 

Don't ever go into negotiating for a job.

 

Hope you have a better option than Halifax and losing loads of money? We’d only be able to have around 8k season tickets as the remaining would be needed for away fans, segregating and match day tickets. Plus we are currently getting around 3,000 match day tickets per home games, which over a season more than pays for our rent. So we’d lose all that income plus still have to pay some rent, talk about cutting your nose of to spite your face, it would be us going back with our tails between our legs with an idea like that.

 

Forgive me for being stupid, but if Rupp won’t put his hand in his pocket to sign an out of contract player to pull us out of the sh*t, where do we think he’s going to find the motivation to fund a shiny new 25k stadium? If he was remotely interested in taking this club forward long term, he’d have been making plans already,

The 1903 club was put together to raise transfer funds, and due to the deafening silence after the big announcement, I’d say it wasn’t as successful as they’d hoped.

 

A very shrewd businessman I'd suggest mate, maybe we would have had more sucsess under Gordon Gibb rather than Juilan, but its all water under the bridge.

 

Haven't read through the whole thread, but I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is, IF the club demonstrate real ambition and capability to execute on that ambition. I'd pay up to £300 for an ST even in League 2, for a good City side going 'all out' for a top 3 spot. I won't pay anything for a struggling mid table side who see's the likes of Theo Robinson and Fiacre Kelleher as the route to success.

 

Throw away your shovel mate, after several have explained the current situation and given their opinion of what could happen in the future you're still digging the hole, I think Gordon Gibb will have more to do than laugh at us, at the time of the second administration Gordon Gibb was not the vindictive one, he could have walked away and who'd have bought the stadium then, like it or not him purchasing the stadium actually gave our club a chance to get it's house in order.

 

Anyone free tomorrow?

Maybe trawl through the Pandora Papers and start tapping up those listed to see if they want to realise the dream of owning a football club?

 

Spot on. The shop on the corner of Rawson Road & North Parade is up for rent. It's 2,827 sq Feet (Over three floors so that is 17ft by 17ft on each floor) and is £175,000 per annum. I appreciate its no comparison to VP but if a smallish city centre shop with offices above is that price, then £500k for a 25,000 capacity stadium, offices that are bigger than the above property alone and bars etc is not unreasonable.

Commercial rents are very expensive, which is why most big corporate pension and investment funds like L&G include large amounts of commercial property in their portfolio.

In my business we pay £500 per month for a 12ft by 12ft office with a street frontage and shared kitchen/ toilet. The two bedroom flat directly behind our back wall (owned by the same people)is £495 pcm, and has 2 beds, kitchen, bathroom, living room and parking space. This, I think, highlights the difference between commercial and residential rents.

We really do need to get away from the idea that we are being shafted. The nearest football ground find example I can find is St Andrews where the capacity is 29,000 and Birmingham pay £1.25 million a year and the cheapest I can find is Bournemouth pay £300,000 for a 12,000 capacity stadium.

At the other end of the scale, Manchester City pay in excess of £5 million a year to Manchester City Council to rent the Etihad.

 

This. Nothing more, nothing less.