Next Prime Minister (with October 2022 poll)

People like @Bronco could never understand this.

Let’s be truthful here the Blues are for the south only and wanting the south to be better.

Levelling up of the north is just really not on their agenda.

 

200k on sofa’s & wallpaper.

Sunak talking about tough economic times but not for him and his tax dodging billionaire wife.

Honestly, joke of a government. Currently!

 

Would you have preferred no testing?

 

Isn't this the issue though?

We're not really a low tax country and haven't been for decades. Austerity (which was a garbage idea) brought the spending cuts to balance the books but didn't bring the tax cuts to balance that out.

Last time I looked we were pretty bang average in terms of tax intake which is why further cuts (if not to support austerity but to streamline the remit of government) are still perfectly feasible - although maybe not straight after the record covid borrowing.

 

No, of course not.

As I said at the time, what they should have done was pumped money into the local authority public health and STD teams, who already had the expertise in test, track and trace. Those existing experts could have spearheaded the training and mentoring of the new recruits and organised the logistical planning, based on their existing local knowledge, contacts and expertise. This was the obvious, logical and most effective thing to do.

Instead, the government threw squillions of taxpayers money at a bunch of their private sector mates - who hadn't a scooby what they were doing - and told them to go and reinvent the wheel.

Johnson and co let their ideological bias against the public sector stop them from putting money into the organisations that were most likely to be effective. It was a disgrace.

 

That wouldn't have changed the amount the tests cost though?

Of that often quoted £37bn the vast, vast majority was simply for testing. Which actually worked remarkably well.

The tiny bit for tracking wasn't effective but it was probably a fools errand trying to track a highly contagion and low symptom disease anyway.....but very little money was wasted on that innthe grand scheme of things.

 

I seem to find many who quote the billions on testing as a way to attack the government are usually from the same group who complain testing is no longer free.

 

in the past decade we've had some of the lowest rates of corporation tax in western europe and yet we frequently have some of the worst rates of productivity, growth and/or business investment. the idea that tax cuts stimulate growth is just not true.

 

The biggest give away in British taxpayers history and yet some seem to justify it. Theres a reason why the wealth of the top 10% has gone through the roof during Covid.

 

If the Tory MPs put Truss and Sunak in the final 2 they really haven't learnt anything.

Two MPs who have been front and centre in this shitshow being the choice of next leader. They may aswell have kept Johnson.

 

Can't see anything changing now, neither have any conviction to deliver for what the majority of us want....

 

They don't. As I keep saying they operate like the Chelsea of old. Feel if they can get a popular person in with the polls that will be enough to keep them in positions. They don't care about the general public and what is happening to Britain

They only care about themselves! .Anyone rich or poor that votes them in next time is an idiot.

 

Is that statement completely accurate? Might need to show some figures for that.

The idea is that tax cuts CAN stimulate growth but its never in isolation though and its can't be a short term measure.

 

look at the state of our economy,


https://www.reuters.com/business/weak-investment-innovation-management-hamper-uk-productivity-2021-11-15/

 

The UK government’s decision to raise corporation tax to 25% means the country faces a 16-place drop in the global corporate tax league table, according to new research by accountancy network UHY Hacker Young.

The UK’s corporation tax rate has remained at a historic low of 19% since 2017, making it the world’s sixth lowest.

Taken from this article - https://www.accountancyage.com/2022/05/24/uk-will-lose-world-leading-corporation-tax-status-with-impending-hike-study-finds/

this hike wont come into effect until april 2023. if tax cuts were such an effective solution to stimulate growth and increase tax receipts, why issn't it being cut further instead of raised? Because tax cuts do not stimulate growth. Why hasn't us having the sixth lowest rate of corp tax in the world stimulated growth thus far? Five years is hardly a short term policy.

 

That's just Corporation tax isn't it. Not the country's whole tax burden?

I doubt that would make it the 6th lowest in the world either to be honest but don't know where they've got their figures from. There's more than 6 with a 0% rate as far as I know.

 

Correlation does not prove causation.

 

Purely to keep Labour and their loony agenda out. Lesser of 2 evils for me.

Starmer, Rayner, Abbott, Lammy etc are a terrifying thought.

 

What is actually so loony about Labour's agenda?

 

https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/key-questions/how-do-uk-tax-revenues-compare-internationally