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Next Prime Minister (with October 2022 poll)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Bronco, Jul 12, 2022.

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Who will be the new Tory party leader and Prime Minister

Poll closed Oct 25, 2022.
  1. Kemi Badenoch

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    0.0%
  2. Suella Braverman

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  3. Tom Tugendhat

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  4. Boris Johnson

    9 vote(s)
    32.1%
  5. Sajid Javid

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  6. Penny Mordaunt

    2 vote(s)
    7.1%
  7. Priti Patel

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  8. Grant Shapps

    0 vote(s)
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  9. Rishi Sunak

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  10. Nadhim Zahawi

    0 vote(s)
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  11. Coco The Clown

    6 vote(s)
    21.4%
  1. Tony Wilkinson

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    Nothing....they haven't got one....
     
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    Gender politics for starters. We dont need that ramming down our throats. Its absurd and far more important things to worry about.

    The problem with Labour is they just sneer at anything the Tories do and offer little solution.

    Dianne Abbott a few weeks ago was screaming we are raping other countries of good immigrants! Yes, thr party of open door borders and mass immigration actually found something to moan about concerning immigration. Purely because it was a Tory policy.

    Theres a reason the left lost 3 general elections and the Brexit vote.
     
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    Where does the Labour manifesto or equivalent document mention gender politics?

    Can you provide any sources or evidence for that?

    Can you link me to where she said that?
     
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    Bottom 6 in relation to corporation tax, lower end of the spectrum but not rock bottom in other taxation. It's also worth looking at how we tax income, as we tax unearned income (i.e not the product of labour) at a lower rate than many other countries.

    I still don't see how this refutes the fact that cutting taxes in fact just costs money and doesn't stimulate growth.
     
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    What's the conservative agenda, given that none of the leadership candidates seem to be able to agree on it
     
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    We're the same...grim for all of us...
     
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    that's for sure, some of the worst politicians on all sides in living memory I think.
     
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    Theres enough soundbites out there.

    Look on her Twitter.
     
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    I don't use twitter it's a cesspit.

    Not enough for me to have heard them evidently
     
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    Starmer cant even identify what a woman is.

    The left are eating itself over it. Feminism and trans rights have now hit each other head on. The rest of us laughing.
     
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    They're still not bottom 6 in terms of corporation tax so don't know where that's coming from either. There's at least 30 countries under 15%.

    It doesn't but that wasn't the point I made. I simply said the UK is not a low tax country, its average.

    The point still remains that having low tax can stimulate growth, but so can having high tax. Neither are impossible but equally neither in isolation will give a guaranteed results, they're part of an all around policy structure and outlook.
     
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    I'm sure he can, you haven't given any proof of any of this and the onus isn't on me to prove your arguments for you, so I'm just going to assume you're making things up
     
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    Except it doesn't. There is almost no proof that having low taxes does anything except lower tax receipts. If it's part of an all round policy outlook then it isn't down to having low taxes. The type of policy outlook which generally accompanies low taxes (light touch on regulation etc), caused the largest financial crash in 100 years in 2008.
     
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    So he didn't bring it up, it isn't in any labour policy documents and he actually declined to dignify it with an answer, but you think Labour are shoving gender politics down people's throats?
     
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    There's no proof of any system working 100%, otherwise every single country would simply follow that and it wouldn't be a debate.

    Lots of things caused the crash in 2008, but with Labour being in power it definitely wasn't low taxes.
     
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    A light touch regulatory environment in the financial sector which Labour at the time created, was one of the main things that left us so exposed to the collapse of the US sub prime market.
     
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    But nothing at all to do with low taxes.
     
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    You're misrepresenting what I said, I'll post it again for you.

    The type of policy outlook which generally accompanies low taxes (light touch on regulation etc), caused the largest financial crash in 100 years in 2008.

    I didn't say low taxes caused the financial crash, so please stop being facetious
     

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