New Stadium

£30 - £40 k per acre for that area and accounting for site clearance.

 

Thanks Roger, pretty much confirms what I and many others have said all along , the ground is worth scrap metal value and low rent land.

 

A house is a house wherever you build it, it's the land that it's sat on that dictates the value. And unfortunately BD8 ain't up there when it comes to land value. Throw in the topography of the land and its limited to what you can do.

 

What the bloody hell is wrong with Valley Parade?

Why, does this absolute nonsensical debate keep arising...

 

Couldn't imagine playing at any other ground. How much would a stadium of similar capacity cost??

It would have to be joint-funded and it would only be a good idea if we had a billionaire owner that could build a super complex...

 

Nothing

 

I think some fans see the likes of Brighton, Swansea and to a lesser extent Rotherham and see how their fortunes improved after a shiny new stadium. Ignoring of course that the main reason their fortunes improved were the men behind the stadiums Tony Bloom, Huw Jenkins and Tony Stewart respectively. And the fact they all played at stadiums far far worse than VP beforehand. If only our owner was as easy to change as the stadium…

 

Yep 100%, that’s why I guess it’s worth little without a tenant. We are however in a conundrum. On that basis we have little option to pay the rent unless we have a CAST IRON plan B

 

Because people believe we shouldn’t be paying rent. Unless we have an alternative then we are where we are. I have no problems paying the rent, seemingly others believe we should be building a new stadium costing???. Or some in utopia thinking it should be paid for by an imaginary sugar daddy.

That’s why it keeps endlessly arising.

 

Don’t forget we went on a huge upward trajectory when VP was reopened after the disaster.

 

^^^^^^^^^^100% anything less Gordon Gibb will be laughing his socks off.

 

Think that was more to do with Richmond Kev. We were second tier when it reopened, had one playoff season which was as good as it got, followed by relegation to the third tier before Richmond got us back to the second tier some 10 years after the ground had reopened followed by Premiership in 99, not exactly the meticulous rise imo the people at the top have far more sway on the success of a club.

 

Compared to applying for league membership year after year that was Stella !
However yes not exactly rapid but it took us to the First Division eventually , (Something I would never ever dream would happen) , then the Prem . It wouldn’t have happened if we remained at the old VP, no matter how much Geoff borrowed from the bank.

 

Couldn't imagine playing at any other ground. How much would a stadium of similar capacity cost??

It would have to be joint-funded and it would only be a good idea if we had a billionaire owner that could build a super complex...

Good researching thanks....and well in that case we are never moving

 

Sorry I'm a bit late to this, Wilsden, but it is not always the wealth of the owner / Chairman. You mention 3 clubs. In the case of Brighton the new stadium was funded from the sale of existing assets, including the old Goldstone ground for redevelopment, I think residential. In the case of Swansea it was funded totally from the large retail park adjoining, anchored by Morrisons. As far as Rotherham, you are quit correct. Tony Stewart, through his business was responsible and I think it cost him. He told me he had plans for a huge training complex next to the stadium instead of leasing Parkgate (sound familiar) but that has not happened and neither has the stadium extension, current capacity around 10.5k.
I'm familiar with a lot of the new / newer grounds and it is almost never the owner or Chairman's money. Here are a few.
Scunny - Moved from the Old Showground from sale to Safeway. Planned to move again to sell for extension of the Retail Park next door but there is no more retail expansion and it fell through.
Walsall - Moved from Wallows Lane from sale to Morrisons, plus income from the non food Retail Park at Bescot.
Bristol Rovers - had planned a new stadium from sale to Sainsbury but that Company like others has curtailed development.
Wigan - Combined stadium on the back of old Central Park sale to Tesco and I think the football ground went for housing.
Shrewsbury - Sold Gay Meadow for hosing, being a prime central site in a nice town.
Morecambe - Sold Christie Park? to one of the German Discount stores.

The similar exists in Scotland where due to low attendances most Clubs are a community focus for conference and dinner events to assist income so look at this angle.
Falkirk - sold Brockville to Morrisons funding better facilities at new stadium.
Kilmarnock - sold Board owned land to Morrisons funding stadium facilities.
St. Mirren - sold Love Street to Tesco, now a housing site.
Hamilton Accies - did a partial land swop with Morrisons in return for exclusive decked car park for functions.
St. Johnstone - sold Pert Road to Asda, funding new stadium.
There will be others, the point is very few owners have committed personal monies but have had an existing asset to trade. I gave my views on value earlier.

 

I know the money didn’t come out of their pockets, as rich as Tony Bloom is the Amex would have done serious damage to his wealth. That was my point, it’s the owners leadership that helped the clubs rise not a shiny new stadium, note those talking about a new stadium on here haven’t expected Rupp to fund it. I like Dave don’t see why a new stadium keeps getting brought up, many other league clubs would love a stadium and fan base like ours. We have far bigger issues.