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George Floyd copper

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Keefly Bantam, May 31, 2020.

  1. Storck

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    less than 2 years you can not go to tribunal for unfair dismissal as long as it isn’t because of a protected characteristic
     
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    That's not strictly true, anyone can take their employer to an unfair dismissal tribunal because there are a huge range of exceptions to the 2 year rule that makes it pretty much redundant. It's certainly a lower risk though for employers dismissing anyone serving less than 2 years but there's absolutely no guarantees.

    Do we know if the bloke in question has served less than two years or the reasons given for his sacking? I'm just wondering if this debate is irrelevant anyway?
     
  3. Storck

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    Gross misconduct by bringing the company into disrepute is what I read somewhere. Not seen anything about length of service
     
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  4. Storck

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    I think huge is a bit of an exaggeration


    Automatically unfair reasons for dismissal
    Even if you’ve acted reasonably, some reasons for dismissal are classed automatically unfair. These are to do with the following areas:

    • pregnancy, including all reasons relating to maternity
    • family, including parental leave, paternity leave (birth and adoption), adoption leave or time off for dependants
    • acting as an employee representative
    • acting as a trade union representative
    • acting as an occupational pension scheme trustee
    • joining or not joining a trade union
    • being a part-time or fixed-term employee
    • pay and working hours, including the Working Time Regulations, annual leave and the National Minimum Wage
    • whistleblowing
     
  5. NorthernMonkey

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    That seems a very short list? I realize you've googled it but you don't have to be legally educated to realize there's some glaring omissions.
     
  6. Storck

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    to be honest I thought there were more including race, disability, religion, sexual orientation etc that are covered by protected characteristics but not according to government website.
     
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  7. Storck

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    turns out you can not claim unfair dismissal for those things under 2 years. You would claim for discrimination instead
     
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  8. YungNath

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    iirc if youve been there less than a year they can just bin you off, was brought in by camerons government.

    edit: less than 2 years and you have no right to claim unfair dismissal
     
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    It's been discussed above but there's lots of ways you can claim unfair dismissal regardless of the amount of time you've been at a company.
     
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    A does of truth and Adam Boulton goes into panic mode lol.
     
  11. Tony Wilkinson

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    I was ok with Sky news up to a couple of months ago maybe but they certainly seem to have caught a touch of bbcitis....someone with an opposing view of the ex chief would have been given half an hour probably to rattle on.....
     
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    The only thing he has finished as quickly as that interview is a plate of biscuits.
     
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    I’m done with Sky. No attempt at balance in any of their reporting on this vitally important subject. The part of a mainstream media narrative that’s making the problem worse.

    Talk Radio interviewed Kevin Hurley yesterday and actually gave him the time to air his views.

     
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  14. Bronco

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    Don't rock the boat even if what your saying is fact and can be proven , Bolton says "is it really helpful at this time of heightened concerns with regards black lives matter" if they are the truth now do they change once these protests stop.
    We keep hearing people say we need a grown up discussion with regard racism etc yet when a comment like the Ex- Met police chief Kevin Hurley quotes the facts on killings the debate is shut down.
     
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    Too many people, and the media, arent interested in facts Bronco.

    The police have lost control. They've had it wrestled from them. Despite the words of people like Khan and Patel 'not tolerating attacks against the police', that's exactly what they're doing. Tolerating it. They're not being backed to take a strong stance through fear of being painted racist. The battle is lost and I fear we'll see more and more violence and more and more shocking scenes of the police running away. Unless its 'football lads', then the riot gear will come out.

    https://news.sky.com/story/around-140-officers-injured-in-london-during-protests-and-illegal-parties-12015186
     
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    I watched ITV News at Ten last night to catch up. There was no mention of what happened in Brixton the previous evening. I'm not sure if there was coverage earlier on in the day on their news programmes, but it is as though nothing happened.

    I gather no tweets from Piers Morgan either on the matter

    This very one sided reporting by the TV news channels has to stop.
     
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    It's because they scared as we are of uncontrolled immigration legal or otherwise and uncontrolled protests, rioting and lawlessness in general.
    This government has a strong enough majority to carry their policies through and would have the backing of a large majority of decent people...
     
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  18. Bronco

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    I'm not sure the Tories are prepared to go along with taking the press and other media on, remember when Labour tried to get papers to be more responsible with their reporting (phone tapping etc) or the law might be changed to control the media the Tories were very much against it and eventually the all clear was given for the media to self regulate.
     
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    From justice for George to this. i don't think she understands this black lives matter stuff from others perspectives. How exactly is this sort of thing like her campaign helpful at all? All she is doing is creating divide, exactly the sort of thing she should be campaigning against. Special feckwit award for sky for running with the article.
     
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    To add to this, she is clearly looking for a racial agenda to her campaign which isn't there at all. Trying to make the point that black businesses are somehow discriminated against because they are a minority is bullshit. Going on about hair products being hard to find, simple answer is for her to set up her own business selling black hair product and by her admissions she would rake it in if she marketed it properly.
     
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