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George Floyd copper

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Keefly Bantam, May 31, 2020.

  1. Offside

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    It's symbolism , look at me , look how upset i am , 15 mins of fame on facebook seems to be 1 of lifes ambitions .
     
  2. How

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    Another thing I’d like to know is how many of the people who are now rioting voted in the last election in America? How many even filled in the census they were sent by the government?
    Until they do that it’s hard to go about change. They need a voice. They need to nominate people from their communities into positions and vote for them. Prosecutors etc. People who understand what it’s like from their world. It is difficult to effect change right at the top but at least correct it in your own state like they seem to have done in some
     
  3. Tony Wilkinson

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    Nah, that's democracy, it'll never catch on.......
     
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  4. Offside

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    This is Tony Timpa , Tony suffered from Schizophrenia .
    In August 2016 he rang 911 in a distressed condition he'd forgotten his medication and was adgitated , Police dispatched 3 officers who duly arrived , and despite a store security guard already handcuffing him the Police pinned him to the ground , a para- medic arrived and administered a sedative . The police were mocking him and telling him it was " time to go to school " , "Mummy will be upset if you're late" . They then pinned him to the ground and laughed when he complained he couldn't breath , they only stopped when he stopped talking . Tony was dead , the 3 officers stood away . The family had eventually to take out a private indicment against the police and mayoral office , despite police body cam footage and high witness accounts District Attorney John Creuzot dismissed the case , after a short period all 3 returned to work .
     
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  5. Faithful Bantam

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    Can't believe his privilege didn't save him.
     
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    I think the parameters with which we discuss racism generally are quite warped, and the discourse tends toward the sensational. In particular I think the aspect of ‘white guilt’ is totally misunderstood - and has fuelled this movement towards the tokenistic gestures we’re seeing from brands and politicians who have suddenly found themselves this safe space within which to express the bare minimum of sentiments.

    This article by Gary Younge is a fantastic read, from a very lucid and insightful writer. You don’t necessarily have to agree with all of it, but it expresses a lot of the sort of thing I would otherwise clumsily attempt to put forward, and completely shuns the sort of barbarised metaphor that we’ve seen a lot of lately:

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/06/we-cant-breathe

    This paragraph in particular touches on what I was saying earlier:

    None of this will heal the sick or bring back the dead. But it could help us develop a more sophisticated and nuanced understanding of how race is experienced and how racism operates. For the left it would help end the futile attempts to engage race and class separately. They do not exist in silos but are two interdependent forces, among many, and they are either understood in relation to each other or are misunderstood completely.
     
  7. Get Rid Of It

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  8. SimonW

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    Who is 'They'? One of your examples is of a Hispanic guy which if you look at the figures on the graph on this article

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52904593

    They actually get below the expected rate of death by cop for their population.

    And on the second one, is it excessive yes but remember he had a gun on the other seat and then watch the bodycam footage, slow it down and he does look to make a move towards the seat (after the scratching his arm that the report mentions). It doesn't show if he was going for the gun but in that situation is it really racism or is it again a situation where the guy put himself at increased risk of letting the poor level of police training which favours shooting over solving a situation put his life at risk. Wheres the proof that in the same situation with a white guy that the same outcome wouldn't have happened.

    Again It just seems way to easy to scream racism rather than look and think is there actually another set of issues that by all sides not facing up to them and trying to resolve the parts they each actually have the ability to change we get alot of noise while the real causes just get swept under the carpet so nothing changes
     
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  9. Bronco

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    Two Blackmen's take on the situation

     
  10. Tony Wilkinson

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    These lads have got it bang on, it's not really so complicated is it ?
    When Obama was president to me he was just the president, no need to see colour, just need to know difference between right and wrong and good or bad..
     
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    And the irony is, if it were 2 white blokes saying the exact same words, they'd be labelled racist.
     
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    Brevity might be the soul of wit, but digression leads to more interesting conversations -- or so I say, at any rate! One final comment on this before the border collies, er Mods, herd us back in line...

    It is indeed a very interesting side-topic, but yes, there is a long ways to go in terms of the research. It is also very sobering, even frightening, to consider the implications of this kind of research for humans in general. Rather like the H-bomb, you can't "un-discover" the secrets once (if) you've discovered them.

    RCB
     
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  13. Rogered Tart

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    Piers Morgan lambasting Barry Gardiner for showing up to the Hyde Park protest parade yet praising his son for, guess what? Yeah you got it, the Hyde Park protest parade. Why anyone pays this arseclown any attention is beyond me.
     
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  14. Offside

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    This idiot needs reminding why he was sacked , with regards Milly Dowler and of course the british army killing civillians in Iraq . The blokes an arrogant pompous fool , why he's still employed on TV beats me .
     
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  15. Bronco

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    I'm with you mate cant stand Barry Gardiner.
     
  16. Rogered Tart

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    People bleating on about white privilege, its staring them in the face with the likes Morgan, Rees Mogg et al. Quite how Morgan has become so wealthy off of being an absolute c*nt irks me a lot .But then the British public that follows him are genrally retarded anyway.
     
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    How and Campbell's soup like this.
  18. Rogered Tart

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    Why do they both have white faces? Not very representative of a diverse culture is it?
     
  19. Faithful Bantam

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    I dont have a problem with that logic. I have a problem with the way the debate is being had.
     
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    I'm more worried by the fact that they dont have mouths. How the f*ck are they talking? Is this telepathy another aspect of White Privilege?
     
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