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If we want to talk about how f**ked up Michael Jackson was we’ll need another thread

 

I'm confused...
The picture on the left is Matt Lucas (a white man) playing a character called Precious (a black women) in the BBC comedy Come Fly With Me
The programme has been branded insensitive and racist. It has since been removed from streaming services.
The picture on the right is Shawn Wayans and Marlon Wayans (two black men) playing the characters Brittany and Tiffany Wilson (two white women) in the comedy film White Chicks
The film is still available on all streaming services.
My question... Why is one branded insensitive and racist and the other isn't?

 

Anthony Joshua Stood at a protest and told people not to invest in white business.
He told people to invest in their own communities. What he should of said is ... stop smashing up your own communities.

He could have said LOOK AT ME! I stand here as a successful black multi millionaire and proof that I am not oppressed by the system.

He could have said the only time he was in trouble was when he engaged in drug dealing, criminality and gang culture and explained how the system supported him and gave him another chance fighting in the Olympics.

He could have explained how the British public were proud to support him whilst he represent his country at the Olympic Games ... he could have explained how by hard work anybody in this country can make it.

 

@Fordy117 is actually a troll , no matter what the subject and the general consensus , he sits in the middle arguing ridiculous points . Love his " this thread is done and isn't any good for Bantam talk " That sentence sums up 99.9% of his contributions .

 

Problem we've ended up with is posts like yours above that ask for dialogue and reasoned debate get shut down before it has a chance to get started and that's where we're at now, the likes of Fawlty towers episodes getting pulled because of context a minority has decided its wrong.
Here's an example of hypocrisy and sums up why reasoned debate will never exist. Have a look at large number of these protesters campaigning their disgust of the slave trade. Just take a good look at what they are wearing. Yeah, some tasty clobber worn by these.trendy protesters. And yet they are so thick they can't see the irony. Wearing the likes of yeezys and other expensive clobber, but never asking where it actually comes from or who actually sits there and makes it. Yeah Nike, you stand up for those poor souls while your clothes are made in sweatshops, with yeah, you guessed it, slave labour.
More important looking sick and peng than understanding what youre protesting against I guess.

 

Remember the simpler time of just having Dominic Cummings on the news channels.

 

Yet the names Patel and Sunak didn't stop two hard working, talented people, securing two of the most senior positions in our Government

 

The media are more interested in agendas than facts.

 

Taking a slash next to a memorial for PC Keith Palmer, who irnoically gave his life tackling what the bloke taking a piss would call a terrorist. The fact i have to share oxygen with these morons angers me.

 

I'm afraid I'd be one of the people you'd have to unfriend, seeing as I agree with the A.L.M. sentiment and don't like the B.L.M. slogan. But consider it from this angle (applicable to any protest):

1) You need a short and snappy slogan for people to rally around;
2) It has to be easily chantable/shoutable and printable on handheld signs;
3) For obvious reasons you don't have the opportunity to provide footnotes explaining your slogan;
4) You don't want ambiguity which gives people an easy way in to attack you or dismiss you.

It is on this last point that I believe the B.L.M. slogan fails -- it really does beg the question "What about other lives?" It divides -- witness you and your now unfriends -- and might put off people who otherwise might be more sympathetic. Think back to all the relevant statistics Faithful Bantam has posted earlier in this thread; deaths justifiable and unjustifiable at the hands of US police happen to all races.

How about "Lives Matter" or even "Our Lives Matter"? The message remains clear, and the slogan is a lot more "bulletproof." Too late now, of course; we have the slogan we have. It is a pity though that something that could help to unify people might instead bring about greater division.

RCB

 

It's not just nauseating, it's dangerous. So many people believe what they're fed by mainstream media narratives. They don't look deeper or research and think for themselves, make no effort to find a balanced account of things. And it stirs up more hate and division. Yesterdays scenes were utterly predictable, and I fear we'll only see worse in the coming weeks.

 

I don't know how many of you have listened to Peterson but he is without doubt the most incredible and powerful speaker that I have come across.

 

I am a Brexiteer, but wouldnt dream of pi**ing on a statue or memorial, so dont see the relevance

 

All this talk of what happened 20 years ago, 50 years ago, 200 hundred years ago, a thousand years ago, it's becoming tiresome. It ultimately changes nothing, both sides exert all their energies trying to be the bigger point scorer seeing who can be more offended than the other. Ends up like groundhog day.
The problems still exists, what are today's perceived concerns, what do the people with these concerns realistically want and how do we as a society realistically achieve this?
Burning buildings, defacing monuments, pulling down statues, guarding the cenotaph, all well and good. Gets the blood flowing, releases the old testosterone. But what next?
Equality? For who? For black people? For people of Asian origin? For all of us?
Alright setting some police cars on fire giving it the big un but what's rehtoric here?

 

In Bristol where they are removing the name of a slave trader from their theatre, like everywhere up and down the country they have a queue of people waiting outside of Primark for some of Bangladesh's top sweatshop product.

 

Ha I was just about to post the very same thing. Agianst the slave trade as long as it doesn't affect their supply of dirt cheap clothes and the latest smart phones.

 

Protests are postponed , the Nike shops have just reopened.

 

Edin got good money for a broken Hanson. Swindled them Blades right up.

I think this is an excellent idea and would highlight slavery on a world level. Doing it now when the issue is paramount could force changes.

 

Its no more or less racist than saying Black Lives Matter.

The intent may have been inflammatory and sought to provoke a racially based reaction. Its organisers may be racist - I've no idea. The words aren't racist. How can they be? We can't have double standards. We can't say 'black lives matter' is fine, but 'white lives matter', or 'Asian Lives Matter', or 'All Lives Matter' aren't acceptable. Its hypocrisy and a reflection of the mess made of an important issue, a demonstration of how striving to achieve equality through an unequal use of language/action will never work.