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December: Things Could Look Better Before The Window

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. NorthernMonkey

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    Can we also bare in mind that Leyton Orient finished 13th and Stevenage finished 21st.

    Then we can quit offering excuses and demand better.
     
  2. NorthernMonkey

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    I think Morgan played right back with his Millwall mate Alan Dowson on the left.
     
  3. XCIV_Bantam

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    Leyton orient kept their good players and went for a manager that suited that play style. Stevenage the same kept most of their squad but removed the fringes of their squad, this can be seen by only missing two large chunks while we are missing 4.

    We play with at most 10 new players and have undertaken a complete squad overhaul which is in of itself quite a challenge and at this point we are 5th.

    Crewe(15th), Wimbledon (11th), Walsall (10th), Hartlepool(24th), Rochdale (21st), Gillingham (23rd) and Swindon (9th).

    No club with a higher turnover is above us.

    what does "demand better" even mean?

    Im not getting into that nonsense argument that boycotting games or booing the team would suddenly make the team into Barcalona. Its clear the club are trying to get promoted.

    We are doing better than last season and the season before. Some folk are never pleased...
     
  4. NorthernMonkey

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    Not won at home for 3 months and the performances are growing increasingly worse week on week yet you're expecting fans to be "pleased"?

    Good luck with that.
     
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    As I said, people said same for last two years at least
     
  6. XCIV_Bantam

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    I am actually, "Not won at home for 3 months" is a tad misleading as we have played 4 home games in that time.. instead of 6 which is typically what youd expect in that time if not more. theres a gap of 5 weeks between the northhampton game and the rochdale game... why are you being harsh agaisnt the team you support? that makes no sense! you didnt actually answer my question about what "demand better" actually means. and the process of which "demanding better" actually does something. if it was as binary as that why don't all the football teams in the world do it?

    To suggest a team cannot have a bad run of form is pushing madness.
     
  7. AngryGaz

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    7 home games including cup games so you can try and spin it how you want but that really is fooking poor .......... and sorry if we don’t follow your happy clappy views ........ we are fooking sick of this division sick to bits with other sides with far less budgets outperforming time after time ..............
     
  8. AngryGaz

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    mine was on the back of the Covid pandemic the other was on the Hughes feel good factor you seriously think folk will turn up on mass again ?????

    Sorry but if we tumble into midtable then expect thousands to go missing :( we have had a lot of newbies but who in all honesty is gonna wanna come back with how shite we are at home
     
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    Thats true, my main point though is theres a 5 week gap where it’s impossible to fix, so seems deliberate to make out the club is worse than it is.

    once we crack on at home think there’ll be far less moaning i bet :laughing:

    Weve lost to 3rd and 1st its not the end of the world. That being said if we lose against gillingham alarm bells will ring!
     
  10. NorthernMonkey

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    You think people are only concerned about the 2 latest losses?

    The performances have been shaky as a whole all season and we're yet to dominate a side in the way both Northampton and Orient (after the first 10 minutes) dominated us.

    You can dress it up all you want and manipulate the stats to back up your positive spin but fans can see it with their own eyes, regardless of what is written on forums.
     
  11. bantamdave41

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    Home form is not exclusive to this season. 18 home wins in 56 games since the start of the 20/21 season.

    In the last 7 seasons, including the current season, under the awful ownership of Rupp, we have managed only twice to secure double digit home wins

    When will it end. So the question I ask, when will we crack this elusive home form?
     
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    "The performances have been shaky as a whole all season "
    "You can dress it up all you want and manipulate the stats"
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    how are we 4th in away form then? or 6th overall? luck?
    How have I manipulated the stats? I just showed you our squad overhaul.

    I keep a record of the seasons from the season we got relegated onwards (plus the history makers season - 13/14), we are 2nd overall with the 19/20 season being 1st at GW20. This time last season we had 25 points.

    Seriously what is there to moan about? - Apart from our home form :joy:
     
  13. NorthernMonkey

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    Well, for a start, around about the time when you started collecting your "records" we were very, very close to being a championship side.

    Now, after apparently being 2nd overall at something or other I can't quite fathom we're now in the basement division and celebrating our first ever win against our Yorkshire rivals Harrogate.

    But yeah, we shouldn't moan.
     
  14. XCIV_Bantam

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    “around about the time when you started collecting your "records" we were very, very close to being a championship side.”

    No I didn’t. I started collecting it the season we got relegated. That side was god awful.
    Ill reply with my “records” in a minute no need to be so disrespectful and dismissive.
     
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    zoomed out as much as i could to show the "records" so i didnt have to send multiple screengrabs. @NorthernMonkey@NorthernMonkey
     
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    you didn't actually answer my questions either;

    "how are we 4th in away form then? or 6th overall? luck?"
    "How have I manipulated the stats? "
     
  17. NorthernMonkey

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    In the first season of “the awful ownership of Stefan Rupp” we were unbeaten at home. Rupp must have played better that season and put the chances away.
     
  19. Bigrod

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    In the teams that are above us at the moment, in addition to Orient (13) and Stevenage (21), then Carlisle were 20th and Barrow missed relegation by the narrowest of margins as they ended up 22nd!

    So introducing the we finished 14th argument, seems irrelevant when compared to those four clubs above us.

    City have an ‘attractive’ manager, the biggest stadium, the biggest support and a decent budget.

    I think it is reasonable to expect ‘more’, especially at home.

    We need two confidence settling wins against current bottom feeders Gillingham and Rochdale. Not just wins but attractive displays.
     
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    Maybe you should demand better from yourself instead of the club.
     

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