Bowyer signs two year contract

All depends on how its worded but generally, if the player's club is relegated and another club makes an offer that is the same or more than the clause it MUST be accepted by the player's club.

 

If that's how it works it doesn't sound such a bad thing for us! If we go down I can't wait to those offers rolling in!

 

I hope you’ve got the patience of a saint....

 

With regards to Colville, he is one of those who have suffered from the stupidity of not having a reserve team playing in a competition. How is he supposed to keep match fit or catch the managers eye if he doesn't play in a competitive match? I appreciate that the manager will watch him in training but is that the same as a match?

 

Eh!

Not true!

It works both ways.

1st thing though do you think Edin or whoever did the contracts over recent years put a relegation clause in or agreed to one?

Relegation Clause should work both ways if not we could be in trouble. Players should be triggered a decrease in wages if relegated.

Some players will be allowed to leave for free or reduced transfer value

However, to say players won't care is off the mark. Loan players might not as they go back to the clubs but players contracted to the club might soon have to take a reduced wage- Is that something you would like?

The earliest thing is the say players are not trying or don't care. If someone isn't bombing around at 100mph they don't care. RUBBISH! We played well over the Xmas period then our manager lost his bottle against Barnsley and started losing the players in my mind and unfortunately we haven't recovered since then. Also our owner needed to splash more cash in Jan but to be fair to him the signings made in Jan made no sense.

The players are trying but some just lack quality and our team/squad is vastly unbalanced that lacks strength and pace like Bowyer highlighted.

 

relegation clause or not, I genuinely can't get my head around why our team don't seem to give a toss. they turn up and phone in their performances every week, ambling round the field, showing no fight, barely breaking a sweat and getting handily beaten every week... if they don't want to be here, then the smart thing, you'd imagine, would be to put themselves in the shop window by playing well but they aren't even bothering with that.

they'll be in for a shock when they realise there is no takers for them in the summer and they have to stay here.

 

But that might also be what they want if they are on good wages? If we can’t afford to get rid of them all, we should construct a reserve team, and they can play in that. It will keep them fit and who knows we might need them if we have injuries. However, we need to have a good strong first team to keep our heads up and try to get promoted.

 

Think we're looking at everything to harshly.

The blame is firmly with Edin, Collins, Hopkin and the board but we have to give everyone a second chance now barring Edin.

Some of the players might show better qualities in div 2.

 

He needs a chance to get in the team then. Arguably, he's had more impact than most/all coming on as a sub.

 

It genuinely depends on the wording. There won't be standard wording in every contract but it could be something of the nature of 'if an acceptable bid comes in' or it could be 'a notional bid/amount' of the kind of Doyle and O'Donnell.

They usually come from suggestions/request from the agent and then it will depend on how firmly the club push back or how confident they'll be that they'll stay up. Arguably, we might have been rather bullish at the start of the season and agreed to terms that were more in the players favour (although given the size of some of the wages it might not be so bad actually)

 

I wouldnt entertain a player who wanted a relegation clause inserted into his contract in the first place

 

They used to be mainly at PL level but have got far more common at lower league level where the difference in revenue and therefore wages are greater. Not just relegation clauses but 'fixed wage clauses' in the event of relegation - look at what happened at Sunderland with that English lad and the French one.

I had a good chat with a chap who does HR at a PL team a couple of months ago at a training/networking event. It was eye opening. I appreciate the good intentions of your stance but if you were to stick rigidly to it you probably wouldn't sign many players going by some of the clauses players have in their contracts these days!

 

Some clauses fix wages depending on other factors too @Dennis - may be relegation, appearances in the case of a younger player, international honours &c. The days of a basic contract are gone really it's a bit of a wild west, players will ask for all sorts, just depends on how firm (or desperate) the clubs are.

 

No doubt Mr Rahic won't have put in any relegation clauses in any of the contracts as he was so full of himself and thought we were play off material.Championship manager has a lot to answer to

 

Depends how much you want that player, if I was a player and seen what had gone the previous season (and they would know players talk) maybe a relegation clause is a good thing for the players future.
No fools these agents, Carbone was reputed to earning 40,000 a week back in 2002 but then his add on, flights back home for family, a house in Adel etc,so many things said at the time of our second admin.

 

You've either misread, misunderstood or misquoted my post.

Nowhere did I say we needed a full team of "midgets".

I would however suggest we also don't necessarily need an entire team of giants.

 

I didnt say that was what you called for, just the approach of prizing ability over athletic attributes which you did call for has left us with a team of technically adept midgets.

 

Don't know about that,these players have the quality at least to finish in mid-table but have a mind set of a relegation team with no fight.

It will be the same next season with these losers and if we can't work a way of getting rid of the contracted players then god help us.

Don't forget the loan players are out best players and won't be with us next season,we are stuck with the O'Connor's of this world.

 

Only we've got neither. The squad lacks physicality as well as, for the most part, genuine ability.