Asylum Seekers

Are you going to make a pie chart or something with the broken down figures? Honestly why does it matter?

 

because blaming the entirety of a 150 billion pound black economy on illegal immigrants is clearly inaccurate why is that such a controversial opinion. I've explained this 3 times now. that is a total figure and to me essentially worthless unless you have at the v least a ballpark figure of how much of that is down to illegal immigration etc. illegal money moves in this country in a lot of different ways than dodgy car washes

 

The info is easily available on google, You either do not WANT to see the figures or as said you are a lazy fecker who expects others to do the work for him, There is lots of info online if you are unhappy with them YOU disprove them
BTW I never claimed the black economy was entirely caused by illegal immigration only that it contributed to it

 

what proportion is a large amount though? if we dont know that even roughly how can you accurately talk about the scale of the problem, or if a problem even exists.

 

You said 150 billion. you didn't offer any detail beyond that which is why I asked for a better break down than just 150 billion in big capital letters. It doesn't tell anyone anything of any detail at all. unless we have even a rough idea of what proportion of that figure comes from illegal immigrants/failed asylum seekers doing illegal things, how can we decide what the scale of the problem is? fairly straightforward stuff man

 

how horrible of me asking someone to go into a bit more detail about something they've done loads of research on

 

What is the economic cost to the country of illegal immigrants working?
According to a government report, detention of illegal immigrants costs £13,000-£15,000 each. As far as the loss of fiscal revenue is concerned (because they earn with cash in hand), the Institute for Public Policy Research estimates that they cost £1,038 billion every year. The MigrationWatch UK estimate a figure of £5,530 billion annually of lost taxes. Without knowing the exact number of illegal immigrants working, it is challenging to calculate with accuracy.


between 1-5 billion of a supposed 150 to possibly over 200 billion pound black economy is shite all in the grand scheme of things and is why i asked for a breakdown.

https://www.cashfloat.co.uk/blog/money-borrowing/illegal-immigrants-welfare/

 

This guy seems to suggest that when we leave the EU we are no longer have to abide by the Dublin Regulations.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said: “We are currently bound by the Dublin Regulations for returns and they are inflexible and rigid – for example, there is a time limit placed on returns, it’s something which can be abused by both migrants and their lawyers to frustrate the returns of those who have no right to be here.

“At the end of this year we will no longer be bound by the EU’s laws so can negotiate our own returns agreement.”

These boat people are not really asylum seekers are they, they can afford to pay criminal gangs thousands to come to the UK having passed through several EU countries where they could have claimed asylum, dont you wonder why they risk their lives to get across the English channel to the UK when they are already in a safe haven France.

 

If they are illegals how can we put a figure on the number who are here, those figures have to be regarding the people we know about ?

 

Then we can't even say for sure there's a problem then. The quote I posted literally does point out that these aren't hard and fast numbers for that exact reason.

 

I didn't say it was controversial I just asked why you are even bothered how its split out?

 

I'm not sure having someone entering the country illegally may or may not be a problem.
I'm sure the people over the years who have gone through the legal channels would agree

 

So here we have the answer..... no one actually has a scooby doo how big the black economy is or how much is lost to the treasury in unpaid tax and NI.

No one has the resources to locate every illegal immigrant or root out business owners paying cash in hand to legitimate workers, so it will continue ad infinitum. And of course we have the drug industry as well and money laundering, the list goes on.

 

I didn't say that, I just struggle to understand why it pisses you all off so much when there are bigger issues that cost the country more money