Are City fans a set. of mugs?

Or maybe just maybe the one thing we haven’t tried is patience with managers. We have and keep on trying the manager merry go round. Look at some of the people mentioned before we brought in Adams look where they are. I know it’s very difficult with Adams dour character and the uninspiring football we playing at the moment but his record shows he knows how to get promotion

 

I do think behind the scenes we need to change big style, maybe look at bringing Mason back for example. But changing manager I feel we have stick with him and see how he gets on next year, this circus of changing manager hasn’t proved to be successful.

 

I’m not in the football business but the business I work for planning is often for a relatively long term goal, usually over a 5-10 year period. That wouldn’t work when we’re talking about promoting obviously, you don’t get that much time in football although it would be nice if we had off the field projects happening with them type of time frames. However I think we do need a sense of realism that it’s actually not that common that managers get promoted in their first season, certainly not with us anyway! There needs to be a plan in place over maybe a two season period where you get the right characters in as well as a decent amount of ability and allow them to gel as a team, instead we chop and change every season or even every 6 months and that’s why no matter who the manager is this last 4 years our teams have always looked disjointed. Sparks was naive at best with his promotion comment, especially when he brought someone in who has never achieved a promotion in his first season in charge of somewhere.

Most fans obviously know this but social media isn’t like your average terrace talk!

 

I agree with your points, but who do we turn to , who’s out there? It would also be Sparks fourth appointment in little over 18 months, he sacks another manager Rupp will throw the axe down on him, which would actually be the correct decision.

A lot of successful managers out there all had poor first seasons, I think we have to grit our teeth on this one and see how it plays out. Plus sacking a guy half way through a transfer period would add to the circus.

 

I get why Fordy has riled some people up on here as I don't think we are mugs, we're just very loyal and passionate fans, and due to our Pre-Rupp success we're used to thinking we might actually pull a result out of the bag. I constantly disparage the capability of this squad, and given our new signings, even I thought going into yesterdays game that we could bag a few goals and play some decent football.

As for Rupp and any potential new owners - the idea that nobody is lining up to/will buy us is just wrong as Rupp turned down that crypto-sports group last month and declared himself our saviour. Prior to that I believe there was a consortium that unfortunately didn't meet the price Rupp set. We're obviously an asset worth having or else Rupp would have sold, or nobody would have ever offered to buy.

Personally I've been boycotting games since October and think the best course of action would be a total boycott of home games. With the size of VP, a decent boycott would have a good effect - 7000 supporters is good for league two, but at VP it would look sparse. Fans can at least still go on their away day trips as it can be fun even if we're shite. I think we need to make owning the club as uncomfortable as possible for Rupp and a boycott is a good start.

 

Ok Fordy. There is just over a week to the end of the transfer window and that is it until the summer.
We sack Adams tomorrow, who do we bring in and who ever it is will have to work with basically the same squad of players.
It would be a pointless and expensive move, we might as well stick for now, we have to stop this manager merry go round at some point and give somebody a chance to build for longer than half a season.
Personally i think mr Adams is a dour boring football manager, but he has had sucess at this level, so must be given more time. If there are no signs of forward movement come the end of the season, then i might have a re-think about his position.

 

Personally don't think with a couple of exceptions there is too much wrong with this squad we have seen flashes of a capable team
Look back to last season when Stuart was doing so badly (that was a poor squad) but two rookie managers turned us into a team that at one stage looked like reaching the play offs they didn't need 2 seasons to build a squad
I agree it would be a very expensive move to get rid but that's down to Mr Sparks and Mr Rupp to rectify their mistakes
Leaving it till the end of the season won't make any difference whatsoever just means we have another (very costly) season in the khazi league our fan base is dwindling and we need to stop the rot somehow
Sticking with a manager for the sake of "consistency" even a manager with promotions on his CV isn't the answer

 

Flynn or for goodness sake Jones and a bowyer partnership. Any one but this fire effort every game. I don’t see any improvement on or off the pitch… at least kenwright fronted up Our lot are locked away in a pickling jar never to be seen like a fine wine .., when they show we may be done … we need to sort it soon. No long term projects here he just does not fit mr DA….

 

We ended 15th and lost our last 7 games, we were never getting in the playoffs. A fair few of the players have seen off multiple managers, it reminds me when people said there wasn’t that much wrong with the likes of Syers and Flynn and they’d rather Plonkinson left. Lightening doesn’t often striker twice but I’d happily see everyone at the club leave in the summer, that includes the players.

 

Parky was poor in the early days, even had a spell with 1 win in 20 odd games i beleive, ended with a scrappy win over Port vale . The chairmen stood by him, the rest is history. I am not saying the same will happen again, just that he deserves more than half a season to mould his team.

 

He’d already been promoted then tbf, but his first 40 games or so in 11/12 we were shambolic and that’s how he earned the name Plonkinson and some like Rick on here never took to him regardless of his achievements. Although it’s unlikely to happen twice it does make me laugh how much of a free pass players get, people used to rate the likes of Flynn and Syers and wanted to keep them over Parky. Thankfully it wasn’t up to them.

 

Maybe they knew after all their hard work they weren't going to get the job full time
They did take us out the danger zone tho

 

Where does the deserve bit come from ??

 

The players have a lot to answer for in my opinion. Under performed from day one and appear to lack any real conviction to the cause. One or two exceptions, but most could not kick their way out of a wet paper bag.

 

The deserve bit comes from his past record .
Promotions with other teams , says he does have an idea what he is doing.
It may not work here, but six months is not long enough. We are not brilliant, we are not dreadfull. hence midd table

 

Highly doubt that tbh, I’d they got us promoted it’d have been hard to get rid and even if we did theyd have had far better offers than they’ve had since what’s Sellars up to these days? We have a lot to be grateful to them for keeping us up but the players deserve criticism for downing tools. It’s just the same things we hear and see with every manager we’ve had in the last 4 years, can’t believe any city fan would stick up for this shower but suppose that’s modern football easier to sack manager after manager than get rid of crap players.

 

Fair point we are not dreadful but not brilliant
I have more interest in his current than past record to be honest and at the moment that says he deserves a strong "talking to"

 

Absolutely the players deserve criticism for downing tools
That's up to the manager to motivate them throwing them under the bus by saying they aren't winners etc won't do that
Not sure I will renew next season either