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  1. Ulysses S Grant

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    Of course I understand. Stop talking to people like you have the high ground and higher levels if intelligence.

    No one will respect your views if you continue to be condescending towards them and you will just continue to look like someone with a one track mind who rants.

    Start putting together some intelligent, thought out arguments, looking at both sides, and people might just listen to you.

    Irrespective of your childish, insulting method of getting your point over, there appears to be no one willing to buy this football club, ergo we are stuck with Rupp until someone does.

    You bang your keyboard all you like, but Sparks is going nowhere, Rupp is going nowhere, and Adams is going nowhere.

    If you want to gain any respect in your Rupp/ Sparks/ Adams Out/ Everyone's a Yes Man campaign then come out in the open and stop hiding behind a keyboard and Jim Carreys face.
     
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  2. hornseabantam

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    You're a funny fellow Fordy. You slag everyone else on this forum for being dancers ( and what the xxxx is that?), happy clappers and weak minded. You demand we should organize and throw out the current owner and management. But you remain the worst bloody example of ranter who refuses to take up any responsibility for trying to lead a change. You're the dancer mate. Whenever anyone has asked you to front up and lead a challenge, you sink back into...it's for everyone else to do. I used to have some respect for some of your views and opinions. But I can have no respect for your abdication of responsibility when you demand change, but do xxxx all to make it happen. And then blame lack of change on the rest of us. Man up, lad! If you really care, start a movement for change. Otherwise, you're just a sad whinger who hasn't the bottle to front up for his beliefs.
     
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  3. bantam2708

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    I don't think it's a case of us being special, but I do think certain managers fit certain profiles of club.

    Take Sean Dyche for example. Burnley are one of the smallest clubs in the league, they have one of the smallest budgets, their playing squad is small and weak for the relative level and therefore their expectations are merely to survive. Dyche's style isn't pretty, but he gets them organised, fighting, defending well and being a threat from set pieces. He ticks all the boxes for what Burnley want and need.

    But he's a good manager for Burnley. If he was to go to an Arsenal or Man Utd for example, his approach and style wouldn't be acceptable. Because suddenly you're managing a big fish in the league, where they're expected to win every week and entertain in the process. Suddenly he isn't ticking those boxes.

    That's very much like Adams with Morecambe. He's been at a club with zero expectations and had them punching above their weight by being the underdogs every week. It works for Morecambe but he's incredibly naive if he thinks that approach will work here. City fans won't tolerate approaches like yesterday and Carlisle where we've seemingly got an inferiority complex in facing poor league two opposition.

    We had that with Gary Bowyer. He was hounded out and we look like we've appointed his Scottish clone. An experienced CEO would have seen the similarities and stayed well clear of a manager who has a reputation for dour football but Sparks was obviously blindsided by his CV. But I suppose that's why you don't make the Twitter guy the CEO.
     
  4. borderlescott

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    We are a massive club in League Two. Ground, history and fan base, all point to us being massive in the context of this tin pot league.

    it doesn’t give us any divine right to be promoted but lets not down play it down and be happy to exist just because we were a tinpot club in the 80s, 40 years ago etc.

    We are a massive club and its a disgrace we continue to underperform every year in this league.

    One look at that shack of a ground at Barrow, recently……christ, that was a reality check. Another one is forthcoming at Harrogate, where 2,500 City fans are chasing only 500 away tickets.

    Chronic underperformance every year since we lost to Millwall in the playoff final. It’s a joke. Sick of it.

    We had a budget good enough for promotion and the board stated it was our aim. Now deliver it.

    Fordy talks some nonsense on here but he’s right this time. Stop accepting second best at this football club and start putting pressure on Adams as he’s not performing.
     
  5. vin weasel

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    Looks like we are mugs for not believing in Delboy!!
    What an absolute clown this guy is.
    I know he's trying to motivate everybody but come on Derek, actions not words.
    If we are hunting then don't go looking for a draw at Rochdale you bellend.
     
  6. Petrov

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    Adams has stated a number of times that we need better than what we've got, repeating it again at the fans forum the other week. Ryan at the same event reiterated that the aim this season is promotion and anything less will be failure. They've got just over one week left to back those statements up with action. I demand that they do that, excuses won't wash, and if we get to the 1st February and that hasn't happened, that's when the goodwill stops for me.
     
  7. Mike Hunt

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    At the moment he’s not putting money in. So if Rupp thinks feck it I’m off, we can’t be any worse off.

    You can’t get him out unless he sells, it’s not a matter of no one to take over, he has to sell to leave. So the premise of what happens if he decides to leave is a false one. Until Stefan sells he’s here, the only thing he could do is not add money to maintain the current budget once ST sales and sponsorship revenue fall on the back of an overpromised and underdelivered season. If he did that the club could be relegated and he’d lose all his investment.

    I’ve said it before, under Rupp we’re in the top three worst performing clubs still in the league. How much worse can it get?
     
  8. Rogered Tart

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    Rupp won't 'feck off', he'd stand to lose too much money and at the moment he's losing nothing bar what he's already put in.
    Something has to change in a business sense, with the garbage being served up every week they stand to lose thousands in lost season ticket renewals and the direct loss and merchandise and food/drink sales because of it.
    We are no further forward this season than last, 2 point difference from this season to last.
    Management on and off the field need to be accountable.
     
  9. WilsdenBantam

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    It happens every season it’s not a one off, so it will happen again next season we on here can do nothing about it regardless of the ranting everytime we don’t win. Just because we take a large away following isn’t going to turn this lot into a winning team I’m afraid. Until Rupp goes get used to league 2, the options are to accept it, protest or just not go anymore and vote with your feet. I’ll be doing the later next season unless something drastic changes. And no a new manager won’t convince me to renew, as Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results so I have no faith in manager number 9 or whatever it will be being a success under Rupp.

    As for Sparks he should stick to the business side and not talk football matters, he’s gone on about our youth team been our future then he hires a manager that rarely promotes youth, has gone through 3 managers himself and declared only promotion will do. He’s got a big gob but we haven’t seen any results from these promises.
     
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  10. WilsdenBantam

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    You could make a difference actually, you claim you are a man of wealth so pay for a fly over during a match. When Arsenal wanted Wenger out they did it and it genuinely galvanised the fans in that direction. Probably less than 1 percent of our fan base read this forum, it’s not a general outlook of our overall fan base, so show us the money and get one arranged so we can see what the fan base actually think. Who knows they might all start chanting Rupp out which I’ve never heard before and that may put pressure on for further action such as protests.

    Put up or shut up. Don’t call other fans out when you do nothing yourself. Dancer.
     
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  11. WilsdenBantam

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    I don’t understand when people say a manager isn’t the right fit for our club what’s that mean? Are we a special club or something he got Plymouth who we are no more special than promoted when given time, as for his character Parky was hardly the most likeable person you only have to ask McLean and Steven Davies that and they’re just the ones who went public and his football most of the time was hardly dazzling.

    The club has been shoddily run for years and we are exactly where we deserve to be there is no right fit, while Rupp is in charge we have to just give someone time and hope they come good because the other strategy under him has been a huge failure.

    If Rupp left and owners came in with a real vision for the club then it’d make sense to get rid and appoint their own man who matched that vision but until then all we’ll do is continue as we are doing every 6 months.

    We aren’t special and we don’t need some special fit, we’ve had all different managers and styles of play with no success this last 4 years, we need a new owner and a vision and direction for the club. Until then it’s all pretty much irrelevant, only positive I can take is we are safely mid table because that’s an improvement on last season when I thought we were going down in December. Oh how we have fallen.
     
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  12. Fordy117

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    We don’t have to give any manager time that can’t get results!

    Adams judged on results and he can’t get back to back wins.

    A rubbish owner, useless CEO and a manager that can’t get results! Something has to give
     
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    I’m all for giving Adams time IF we look like we are looking like we are moving to do something ........... but do that lot and his style of play look like we a building into something ???
    We are 4 games into the new years and has anything changed ????
    We should have at least another main striker in but sadly nothing :(
     
  14. Bantamsteve

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    Personally don't think with a couple of exceptions there is too much wrong with this squad we have seen flashes of a capable team
    Look back to last season when Stuart was doing so badly (that was a poor squad) but two rookie managers turned us into a team that at one stage looked like reaching the play offs they didn't need 2 seasons to build a squad
    I agree it would be a very expensive move to get rid but that's down to Mr Sparks and Mr Rupp to rectify their mistakes
    Leaving it till the end of the season won't make any difference whatsoever just means we have another (very costly) season in the khazi league our fan base is dwindling and we need to stop the rot somehow
    Sticking with a manager for the sake of "consistency" even a manager with promotions on his CV isn't the answer
     
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    Give him some credit. The way he consistently picks out the first defender at every corner is the incredible.
     
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    Mr Adams needs reminding why he was brought here on a (quite lucrative I imagine) 3 year contract
    He is the one who boasted he gets teams promoted with little or no budget who could mold a group of individual players into a promotion winning team after all he did get Morecambe promoted (didn't trust himself to keep them there tho)
    Time to prove your reputation Mr Adams !!!!
    No more excuses or deflecting fault
    After all if he had done his job and we were top 3
    Would all these conversations be taking place
     
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  17. Ulysses S Grant

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    Or where and when you plan to start the fans collective so we can all contribute to buying Rupp out.

    I know a good architect who can start work on the new training ground ASAP.
     
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    The bottom line is most fans can't be arsed protestesting or creating a stink

    They will simply vote with there feet and not attend anymore

    I think we're only 4 or 5 shit games away from this stage
     
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    That's the issue at the heart of this. At the moment, Rupp owns a club that is paying its way without him having to dig into his own pockets. Imo he'll be content to let that continue until the point at which his investment is at risk or it requires his money to stop it sinking any further.

    Looking around VP on match day suggests to me that many thousands of fans are already voting with their feet. That doesn't cost Rupp much money at the mo. The crunch will come for Rupp and Sparks when the STs go on sale for next season and we see how many of the no-shows choose not to renew. Those decisions by lots of individual fans will cost the club real money. Without making that up somehow, we'll have little if any chance of getting promoted next season either despite what Sparks might have to say.

    If fans want to make a stance about the ownership or management of the club, do something which will hurt Rupp in his pockets. Don't buy a season ticket for next season.
     
  20. hatchedbantam

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    Can you remember the days when we had owners who used to be sat in the stand with there scarfs on at match days when we were a proper football club and proud. Now we have this chap who might as well be from another planet, does he actually exist, where does he live, what does he look like, when did anybody from city last see him, can he remember where we play and has anybody told him the new name for the ground. For gods sake man sell the club and let's get an owner sat in the stand with that scarf on.
     
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