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2021/22 Season Tickets (now with poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Stafford Bantam, Apr 27, 2021.

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How many Season Tickets will City sell

  1. 6000-9000

  2. 9000-11000

  3. 11000-13000

  4. 13000-15000

  5. 15000-17000

  6. 17000+

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  1. bantamdave41

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    I think its a romantic idea that Rupp is going to spend more than he physically needs to. I don't think he will put the club in jeopardy but will spend only the necessary monies and potentially at cost to the club.

    This club needs to be sustainable. It needs to be financed through its sponsors, supporters and by making cut backs where and if possible. Sparks has already indicated the wage bill will drop, season tickets will rise.

    Supporters thus will need to pay higher premium to watch the football.

    Now, I may be wrong but the noises indicates the club need to be more sustainable. We know we have potentially an unwilling owner in situ.

    We will get the normal expectations of this and that player should be signed but I'll put my hat in the ring right now and say that T&S will be in charge in August and whilst plenty of movement in the playing personnel will occur, I'm not expecting anything more than January in league 2 players and fringe players from league 1 or beyond.
     
  2. andyc

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    Cheers. Not too much longer and i will be classed as a pensioner , in ticket terms,
    Unless they move it to 65 and then i an just a kid again LOL.
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  3. Park bantam

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    This is not the time to be hiking prices to much and I don’t think they will this season. Very few people have mentioned their idea of instead of a season ticket a gym style subscription which could be linked to commercial partners with discounts and the like and is an interesting idea. Using this they could have levels of subscription therefore raising more money I look forward to seeing it come to fruition
     
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  4. Tight1-0Victory

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    Can you evidence this figure of 60%?
     
  5. bantamdave41

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    So by your own statement, why would Rupp want to spend more than absolutely no guarantee of return?

    Look at the squad assembled last summer and in January, do either suggest investment?

    What has changed at this club in the last 12/18 months to suggest further investment? Where did the McBurnie money get spent? On DMH? KG? Billy Clarke?
    I mean losing JV to Tranmere would of saved a few quid on the wage bill.
     
  6. Tight1-0Victory

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    No. I think subsidising is totally unreasonable - just like it's unreasonable for those to say they're doing okay, so raise prices when it's pretty clear others are struggling.
     
  7. Tight1-0Victory

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    Totally agree.

    Really bad comparison, and we should look out for fellow fans who might be having a hard time during a global recession and pandemic, IMHO.
     
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  8. Tight1-0Victory

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    I think if a League Two club has players like James Vaughan and Clayton Donaldson on their books, then it's probably a sign of investment.

    That doesn't seem to fit with the normal remit for League Two clubs that don't frequently overspend, like Bury used to, and like Mansfield seem to.
     
  9. bantamdave41

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    But JV lasted 6 months and moved on. Replaced by Guthrie.

    Donaldson injured at same time as Vaughan move.

    My discussion and you are absolutely correct that the club have invested prior, is where in the last 18 months have we seen tangible investment?
     
  10. Bronco

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    To help make his investment viable going forward, we saw how near we were to possibly going out of league football and I'm told that we could not survive in none league playing at Valley Parade, luckily for us T&S did a fantastic job turning the playing side around, so I'd suggest if he doesn't want to be in that uncomfortable situation again then it will IMO require more than a £50 rise in season ticket sales to make sure not only don't we see that situation again but we get a promotion next season.

    Stefan might see it totally differently.
     
  11. Tight1-0Victory

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    Well, I think January represented an investment, we did about as much as can be expected in a January (always notoriously hard to ring the changes in). Bringing in Cook and Rowe on top of what we already had suggests an investment, and I think we paid for Canavan - but I think it's clear that Stuart was operating on a shoestring, so we probably didn't cost ourselves a huge amount once you balance out the season.

    Still, it was more than I expected us to do. I wouldn't have been too surprised if we'd kept things super cheap, but in the end we were doing so badly we just couldn't risk it anymore.

    What I will say is, apart from Stuart seemingly opting to sign cheap and play kids (which he's done before), I don't think we've been too tight fisted. We've signed some impressive looking players, most of them just haven't performed.
     
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    No doubt about it mate you only need a couple of the quality players we sign not to make the difference to find yourself in trouble.
    As you say the January signing helped T&S achieve what they did, Canavan made our defense solid and when Novak got injured Rowe and then Cook took over the goal scoring mantle, as well as getting rid of players that had contributed little previously.
     
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  13. bantamdave41

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    Your possibly right my friend that we invested in January. It was more than I expected too, it won't deny that. But where did the investment come from, I ponder? Maybe the EFL grant of 1/4m in December or was it from within the club?

    Going back to my original point of the club being sustainable, I just don't see Rupp investing more than he absolutely needs too?
     
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  14. Tight1-0Victory

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    Yes it could have come from the grant, or might have come from not spending the budget we'd allocated in the first place, so it could easily be explained.

    But if I remember rightly Mark Lawn used to talk about million pound deficits most seasons, and to be honest the players we had then didn't seem massively expensive. I know a lot of them turned out great, but Nahki and Hanson must have been one of the cheapest strike forces in the EFL - one a reject from a small club, the other a non leaguer.

    I just think if THAT squad cost us so much money, this squad is probably costing us the same, so the difference might be that Stefan Rupp simply isn't complaining about covering the deficit in the same way Mark Lawn used to.

    Does that sound realistic?
     
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  15. Dennis

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    According to Sparks, the funding of the transfer fees etc in the January window came from the additional money which the club made from the iFollow subscriptions. He was quite open with the facts in one of his Radio Leeds interviews and I welcome his openness.
     
  16. Loyalbantam

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    The windfall from ifollow was a one off due to the circumstances. Once away fans are allowed to attend the monies gained would not be so attractive.
     
  17. bantamdave41

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    Fair reply @Dennis@Dennis. Wasn't aware. We're we producing figures for ifollow subscriptions back in January and if so, what kind of viewing numbers were occurring? I'm assuming by what you said, that projected ifollow sales allowed for player incomings?
     
  18. Tight1-0Victory

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    I can't recall exactly when he made the comment about the additional money from the iFollow subscriptions but it was some time after the window had closed. It covered several months of viewing. Even during the most recent period - April - when viewing figures have reduced because of our performances, we're still averaging a little over £8k per match, both home and away. In the earlier periods when we were performing better on the pitch, the average figures were much much higher. But yes, it was Sparks who shared the fact that the iFollow subs received had paid for the incomings in January.
     
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  20. Bantam4ever

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    Let's just hope it's simple to renew, and not a complicated setup like this season (even though it didn't happen)
     

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