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Whelan family/David Sharpe to join the board?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Idlebantam, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. Hoochy-Min

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    Calling out in class? Insolent.
     
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  2. Bigrod

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    The difference between Manchester, Leeds and Bradford in respect of the rail link is that they have through train systems, with relatively fast lines, whereas the Interchange in particular is a dilapidated inadequate facility with no electrification. Manchester has just opened the Ordsall Chord linking Piccadilly and Victoria. Leeds is opening up the south side of the station. The old Bradford Exchange station was apparently closer to the centre as was the old Forster Square. When they built the new shopping centre, there may have been an opportunity to join the lines and build a single centralised station. It has gone and is never likely to occur (no cross rail here!). I am sure some on here will have far greater knowledge about the situation than me.
     
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    Penicillin
     
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  4. JonButterfield

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    I don't think the current Interchange is a factor. It's accepted it would be a total rebuild, rightly so.

    https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/17366417.bradford-northern-powerhouse-rail-station-must-be-in-city-centre/
     
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  5. Farnborough bantam

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    Yes queuing all night outside for tickets - those were the days.
     
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    I never ruled with an 'iron fist'. I welcomed all answers, so long as they didn't shout each other down. I gained their respect, as they gained mine. :)
     
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    You're right. The lack of connectivity between the two stations and the fact that you need to drive in and reverse out when going to Leeds have set the CIty back 50 years.

    The Northern Powerhouse needs a through station in the Centre of Bradford. Then you are 7 minutes to Leeds and 20 minutes to Manchester... Companies could base themselves here and bring in workers from far and wide and our workers could go to and fro likewise.
     
  8. jpaul81

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    In many respects Leeds suffered many of the same issues as Bradford, namely middle class flight to the suburbs, de-industrialisation, rising crime etc.
    However, its transport links and status as a de-facto regional hub means it attracts the investment. The trend for centralisation and the nature of the service sector means it is more cost effective to run big regional offices serving a wide area. Which in turn drives the retail and leisure sectors in the big hubs, of which Leeds is one.
    The only way to control the flow of money is government intervention, but i don’t think the political will exists in the UK.
    One thing that strikes me about Leeds is the contrast between the wealthy and poor areas, indicating the problem of centralisation exists within Leeds itself not just the wider region. This is contrast to places like Harrogate and York, where distribution of wealth seems comparitively uniform.
     
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  9. Bigrod

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    The hassle is that the super Broadway shopping centre has only been open for just over 3 years. I understand that it took seventeen years to be realised from an idea to reality. So the chances of it being demolished to accommodate a new integrated railway line and station seems to be an unachievable dream.
     
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  10. Edinmiarse

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    There's a 70 ft height difference between the two stations. Makes it a bit more problematic!
     
  11. Pomfretbantam

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    That wouldn't make any difference, if done correctly the tracks would be in the air, take the tracks round the back of George's Hall. The central station including an incorporated shopping centre (extended Broadway), would be a viable option with real potential for growth.
    This would also make it a more viable train station as the running costs would be supported by the retail centre.
    The only real problem with any of this is the funding as usual, if the council and government bought into it with real investment it would encourage more private equity involvement.
     
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    You mean demolish the crown courts?
     
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    They are the second busiest buildings in town, after the job center of course.
     
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    Third actually, after the Magistrates court.
     
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  15. Bigrod

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    Transfer the court to Leeds!:devil: All Salford’s Crown Court business is dealt with at Manchester, so I guess to rationalise the situation they could close it.:unsure:;)
     
  16. Tony Wilkinson

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    would have thought Keighley/skipton might have been a bit more...
     
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    Sounds like you know what you are talking about. Any chance of advising the Northern Power House?
     
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    This is an interesting discussion and I've posted what I think before in a different thread. People in Bradford are divided between those who see great hope for the future and those who see Bradford as a city in terminal decline. I tend to the latter view. Almost everyone I know, nearly all former residents, only go to Bradford if they absolutely have to. Most don't go because they don't feel safe, even during the day and certainly at night. A friend of mine who lives in Leeds and has moved to work in the City in the last year comes into this category. He is amazed and alarmed by what he sees, and he lives in a pretty rough area of Leeds.
    Prosperity comes from money and those who have it have left Bradford long ago. Someone made the comparison between Liverpool and Manchester and it's very similar. More people are leaving Liverpool than any city in the country. Whenever I go there I'm struck by how much it feels and looks like a bigger version of Bradford. How this all translates into football is open to debate but if Everton ever get relegated they'll be in real trouble.
    I admire people who stand up for poor old Bradford but to describe the appalling new shopping centre as an asset leaves me lost for words.
     
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    Where is Cullingworth and Denholme? We must be lumped into Keighley.
     
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    It is good to see these figures as people have always claimed that there are loads from Keighley and further that way especially when location for new stadiums are discussed.
     

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