Your preferred manager

How much time would you give them before you start calling for their head as well?

 

Until he wins two loses 2 and draws 3

 

It wouldnt be long Petrov those calling for the Cowley brothers - why? Do you really think they would be the answer (I dont) and based on what? They were the latest flavour of the month a couple of years back at Lincoln but Feats, if they came and suffered a few losses you would be then be onto them.........and so it goes on.
The malaise at our club is not going to be cured just by changing the manager - sadly it goes far deeper than that

 

people can accept defeats; it's part and parcel of football but it's the manner of defeat that is concerning to people. people can also accept defeats if the team plays well and performances show more than what the result does but it's the standard of performance that is concerning to people. we're second best in every department and both Harrogate and Newport (plus Lincoln) didn't need to get anywhere close to out of second gear to trouble us whereas we seemed to be able to offer nothing more than what we did and we didn't even lay a glove on them. that's what is worrying.

i was totally against the re-appointment of McCall from the beginning and that has not changed - not because I don't like him as a person, I do and have met his numerous times but because he simply is not the right man to take this club forward. so far in his latest tenure we've seen all sorts of conflicting things come from him directly, from "there's plenty of money left in the salary cap" to "it's hard to work within the cap" to "clubs are not paying fees for players" and then paying a fee ourselves for Elliot Watt.

some believed in the myth of 'McCall-ball' that the club even posted on social media after we beat a terrible Mansfield side, but have performances improved since February? which players can we honestly say he has coached and improved? he had a long pre-season to get his players in and shape his squad and the majority of this squad this season was here from last season so should have some idea of how he wants to play and setup - but they look like a fish out of water defect of any ideas and instructions. Kenny Black stands on the touch line like he's just come from an allotment, whilst McCall is 10 rows back hands on hips; how are they meant to discuss changes to make when so far apart. it's ok if he is sat / stood at the back of the stand mic'd up and advising but everything he shouts down is now heard by the opposition immediately.

the standard of league two football is clearly not the best but it has improved over the last 20 years as players filter down from the leagues above and coaches get better through courses and qualifications but we still play like the only way to win a game is to play direct to the centre-forwards and pick up any dropped second balls. it is possible to play this way and be successful but you need the right players to the play the system, which we clearly don't have. we lack pace, that's clear. we lack mobility, that's clear too and we lack strength through the spine of the team. McCall had time to rectify this but decided against it. again he says it's been difficult to bring players in this off-season but Newport brought in 14, Harrogate 9, Cambridge 10, Cheltenham 12, so the players were there and available. why did we find it so difficult? i've made jokes about McCall and his iPad, but seriously, it's evident that there is an issue with our recruitment process and that it needs rectifying quickly or we'll continue to make the same mistakes year after year.

now, Rhodes, has gone on record to say that he believes that people only see ambition as money being thrown at an issue. I don't believe that this is the case and people aren't clamouring for money to be thrown at this - we are all clever and old enough to understand that we don't have much money and it isn't an option. that makes it even more imperative that the money that is spent is spent wisely after detailed and deep assessment and analysis for anyone that is going to be brought into the club. I don't trust McCall or Rhodes to do this after this pre-season and signings he has previously made in previous spells and I think that they are both starting to erase any trust that supporters have in the both of them to rectify our current position, not only in the league table but as a club and structure too - and when the trust goes, the only way is down.

maybe they are both too close to the situation and unable to look at things objectively. they both clearly want the best for Bradford City and neither will be happy with the current situation - but are either of them the correct people to take Bradford City forward both on the pitch and in the boardroom? I don't think that they are. and whether sooner or later, fresh impetus is needed leading the club and the team.

 

Yeah I know, it was rhetorical

 

You dont say?!

 

Deserves a like simply for the comment 'Kenny Black looks like he has just come from the allotment'

 

the issue with just treading water is that there will be some around you who take up the challenge to swim back to shore and in essence you are left behind even more so than before.

 

he was given 100% control of the budget and recruitment process - what more does he want?

 

I would suggest it's not hysterics,it's frustration!

Winning builds "confidence". Not with us it doesn't !

It's like an author starting to write a novel,but can't
get past the first page,keeps on tearing it up and starting
again.At some point you have to consider doing things
differently or the book won't get written.

 

The point I was making was that we don't actually have a manager right now we have a 'playing legend'.

Petrov. The issue isn't just the results this season. We are seeing the same issues that Teflon has had his entire management career. We have a manager that a significant number will admit that if it was a pure football based measurement would not have got anywhere near the job. He failed in what remained of last season to make any significant impact and the start of this season is no better.

If this was Bowyer or Hopkins or Collins (how long did we give him?) would you be as staunch in your support?

 

hhhmmm "At some point you have to consider doing things differently or the book won't get written" and yet we have gone back to Teflon for a third go round.

 

That mistake has already happened it’s not time after so few matches to judge

 

Some very good reasoned posts today in the situation, this is arguably the best so far.

 

Park Bantam. If we recognise it was a mistake and we recognise that he still has the same poor management traits from his previous times here and his time at other clubs why do we want to go on this way?

What is going to change between now and next summer? Do we believe that Teflon will have some sort of 'Come to Jesus' moment where after 14 years he suddenly manages to possess management skills? If has hasn't got it by now he isn't going to get it. In 14 yearhe has had 3 (?) successful* seasons? Note * Didn't win anything or gain promotion but came close.

I haven't seen an argument that says Teflon was the right appointment other than he can bring the club together (patently that isn't happening) or was cheap and the only argument I hear that supports retaining him is that chopping and changing isn't good.

There isnt anyone arguing that he is a good football manager. In fact the opposite is generally the response on here.

So, other than the decision was made, why are we sticking with him?

 

I agree. I'm not saying I'd have approached this season on that basis and I think its disappointing we did. But we clearly did.

 

Because whilst I think it was a mistake he was appointed and now he is here he needs time we just can not keep on changing managers every few weeks. We have got to give him time unless we go on a run similar to last time

 

simple question park; on his record so far in this spell as manager, do you trust McCall's recruitment process and his ability to put a promotion challenging squad together?