Where will it end... 12th September as it happens

Yes I think so....or maybe even earlier in this one

 

I for one would like to fcuking apologise for sitting on my arse, claiming of the government to make ends meet whilst my sector is in close down and likely to be for at least another 2 months. Beyond that the real reality of redundancy lingers....
Just to let you know, My colleagues all want back at work but hey you know of one person that's not in a rush to get back, so let's tar folk with that big sweeping brush of yours......

I'm absolutely loving 'not rushing back' as I am 'comfortably managing'. I love the notion that as I'm furloughed I'm being categorised like those who live off universal credit. I know their are some who abuse that system but their are many who struggle like fcuk on it.... Do you really think before you post utter crap like this??

Let me tell you, you pompous individual that after 27 years in my industry, putting in as much energy and effort as I always have, I hate been home. I itch to get back. I've completed online training around compliance and health and safety just tonight.

So to stigmatise those on furlough scheme like you have, you make my blood boil. Oh......

 

And that pretty much echoes the thiughts of everyone i know who is currently furloughed. I haven't heard the universal credit comparison but even the ones whose companies are making up their full salary want to be back at work

 

No shit. How funny would it be if he technically got us in the play offs.

 

I'm quoting pompous when he says: That’s right but they certainly won’t be rushing to go back because they are comfortably managing as are people who were already on universal credit who will be a hundred a pound Or so a month better off for a year.

 

The only ones happy to stay at home are the ones that don't work in the first place.

 

Here here. And I want to work

 

If course many people are struggling and wondering if at the end of it they will have a job. It’s also clear that some are comfortable on this scheme and are in no hurry to return

 

I've got 8 bar staff. Currently the bars are open here until 22:00. However, during the two months, I decided to close the bar because a) there weren't many customers and b) I thought it was the responsible thing to do. I put the workers on furlough, because I didn't want to lay them off, and also the 70% salary contribution from the Government was very welcome. I have to pay 150€ per worker, pay the taxes and the Government tops it up until May the 18th.

The last couple of weeks has seen restrictions on movement lifted, and that coupled with some decent weather has made more and more bars open up. For the past two weekends, I opened the bar and had a roaring trade, almost like there was no CV19 at all. The problem was, that I could only get two of my staff to work. The six who didn't work either had "other plans for that weekend" or were still a bit unsure about coming back to work in the current environment. So basically they stayed at home, took their monthly pay, but let two other workers do all their shifts - even though these two workers were getting the same pay as the ones not working, but making the effort to come and get behind the bar. Which I think is unfair.

It's definitely made me realise which of my staff are lazy, and which are prepared to work. On the 18th when the furlough is taken away, there will be loads of staff laid off and the market will be full of people looking for jobs. I pointed this out to the other six, and miraculously, they are all available to work this weekend!

 

Or the few who have genuine healthcare concerns. For example I have an employee who’s 8 year old has leukaemia. He’s sh*tting himself about this whole thing.

 

What’s your point....?

 

More virus info:

So we now have New York, London, Stockholm and Geneva all lloking well above 10% infection rates according to blood antibody studies. This seems to be a trend for urban areas in highly infected countries. It means such areas might be able to slowly unlock while lesser affected areas still have the problem of trying to unlock without having gone through the more rapidly spreading first wave, e.g. Lebanon have locked down again after their figures suggest they prevented the first wave (deaths per million there is only 4 versus UK's 482 and Sweden's 328).

Https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52637725


Here's some very interesting new data from Geneva. Infection rate gone from 5.5% in blood antibody tests done April 6th-10th to 9.7% in tests at an unmentioned date more recently (reported 15 days later so likely around 3 weeks ago so Geneva likely to be well above 10% now). It says they are wrestling with false positives rates in tests of 4%, though these can be adjusted for in community studies. (For individual tests, you'd really need to test twice for reasonable certainty. Important for footballers - are they being tested twice to confirm positives?)

Https://lenews.ch/2020/04/26/coronavirus-5-5-of-geneva-might-be-infected-according-to-study/

Https://lenews.ch/2020/05/11/recent-testing-suggests-9-7-of-geneva-has-had-coronavirus/

Switzerland has 1867 deaths from a population of 8.6m. (216/million) If 5.5% of the population were infected around the time those dead likely got infected by in early April, the infection mortality rate would be 1867/471350 = 0.4%. 0.3-0.4% has been the area that most of the 25 or so blood studies have congregated around. (That's maybe a little over twice as deadly as an average flu overall. By estimated Covid-19 age distributions, it might likely be less than twice an average flu for the fit and young but more so for the old and vulnerable - but remembering it also infects more people more quickly so we got the rapid wave 1. Overall excess mortality seems to back this up. It's currently on a par with a bad flu year (40-50k) but it is still rising a slowing rate. We still need some bigger blood studies done though, to be sure.)

 

I've calmed now pompous continues with his insular thinking. Oh I don't know, is my point not clear enough?

 

Where has the 10% infection rates come from?

 

Blinkered

 

Why?

 

New York has been widely reported online, as has Sweden. UK was Monday's 7pm briefing towards the end but also the link below. Geneva I've just posted links earlier but I've just been told by a resident that TV news has just broadcast that an ongoing Swiss nationwide study shows the latest figure is 11%. Obviously no link for that yet and that would be the infection rate by 3 weeks ago to produce antibodies so infections higher now.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/23/coronavirus-survey-reveals-13-9-percent-in-new-york-have-covid-19-antibodies-cuomo-says/

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html

Tegnell said sampling and modeling data indicated that 20% of Stockholm’s population is already immune to the virus, and that “in a few weeks’ time we might reach herd immunity



I think TV are holding back on this info as they don't want people to get overexcited and start ignoring rules. It might possibly be no worse than flu for fit and young and we might have many immune now (maybe as much as 15-20%) but it's still more deadly than flu for lots of old and vilnerable that have been hiding from the first wave so we have to control the idiots when we work out how to slowly unlock things in a sensible manner.

 

About the potential for transmitting infection to his son. The treatment he's receiving has left him with no immune system and he's at very high risk should he become infected.