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  1. NorthernMonkey

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    He was pointing to how Rahic wanted to buy young, cheap players then improve them and sell then on. Then reinvest the money buying better young players and sell them on at a higher price and so on.

    We all know the plan wasn't executed correctly but in theory it could potentially work if executed correctly.
     
  2. NorthernMonkey

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    I posted it further up. He stated his plan (before he got everything so terribly wrong) was to buy young talent, improve them and sell them on. Reinvest in better youth talent and sell then on at higher fees and so on.

    The execution was terrible, there's no doubting that but the actual plan can be workable if everything is done correctly, including the investment.
     
  3. Rogered Tart

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    Go on, tell me exactly how Bradford City are going to make a lot of money? And just to make it realistic, with no money. I know for a fact the guys at the top end of the commercial set up at City know how to make money in football. And with a club like ours it can only be done with the transfer of promising players to bigger clubs. And as we all pretty much know that goes into two strategies, either your own academy that produces talent, like Exeter, or paying fees for players like peterborough or Brentford for example. Whichever route takes significant investment, something which looks highly unlikely at City for at least the foreseeable future. And both these strategies are not foolproof and both need a high level of professionalism to come to fruition.
    We've had this discussion goodness knows how many times on this forum about the long term strategy of this football club. Rahic did indeed mention it. And i have it good authority that Rahic did indeed talk a good game at various times during his tenure. But talking about it and implementing it are two entirely different things, Rahic talking a good game wasn't exactly rocket science, thousands of city fans could have told you exactly the same plan as Rahic had.
     
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    If you want to talk to the guy at the top of the commercial department with your ideas i can always put you in touch with him. I know for a fact he's always open to new and innovative ways of making revenue at sporting clubs.
     
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  5. Bronco

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    Yet Dean Hoyle was reputed to write off £5 m year on year for several years before Town achieved the promised land, as @Interested Bystander@Interested Bystander says 10% of £120 m won't go a long way to getting us to be a competitive club in the Championship.
     
  6. Dennis

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    You underestimate considerably how much would be required. Even if Rupp got us into the Championship with his initial £15mill, there is then the small matter of becoming established in the Championship before gaining promotion to the PL. It cost Hoyle nearly £60mill to get Town to the PL. It cost Gibson nearly £100mill to do the same at Boro and it has already cost other owners more than that and they still haven't ahieved promotion to the PL.
     
  7. Mike Hunt

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    Invest in youth? What’s the point? PL academies hoover up anyone with a shred of talent and pay peanuts. Even Huddersfield shut their academy. You’re relying on amazing luck, cast offs, non league players or overseas scouting. And how’s that gone in recent years? Peterborough are about the only club who do it consistently. Out of 48 in the bottom two divisions.
     
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  8. Bronco

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    It's the likes of yourself who needs to come into the real world.
    We aren't going to get Rupp to invest that type of money, and I'd very much doubt we have potencial new owners who would buy the club and immediatly invest the money being quote.wake up and smell the coffee.
     
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    While we're worrying about covering the cost of more of the best striker in the divisions wages our owner wants £10 million for the club.

    that's insane. if he wants £10 million then put some more funds in and lets get back to a level where 10 million MIGHT be achievable.
     
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    He doesn't want 10m for the club. That was @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler's estimate of what would be needed to buy the club and invest in taking it forward. Unfortunately I can't see that on the horizon at the moment
     
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    That isn't what I said but you make a good point. He is keeping us ticking over, but that said he has given us a decent budget for this season, so maybe slightly more than ticking over. However, like you I don't think he has any long term plan other than protecting his investment and hopefully getting most of it back. He is neither a football man nor a Bradford man so there is no other long term interest, but there are far worse owners out there at the moment.
     
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    Fordy - there are lots of words on taking the club forward / lack of it but as i see it no one is coming forward to make it happen. As you feel so strongly/passionately about this subject - please take this issue on, raise the money with others and purchase city. I and lots of others would love to see City become a Championship / Premiership team.
    So can we look forward to you picking up the batton and then putting your ideas and plans in to action? Good luck you have my support
     
  13. Bronco

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    Nothing at all wrong with wanting a progressive club, unfortunately unless Stefan is prepared to invest more or sell the club I see little alternatives.
    We have to be realistic we are little Bradford City who have 14/15,000 home gates because we have cheap season tickets that's not a bad thing or it would have been stopped years ago.
    As you say we had previous owners in Julian & Mark who always said there was a limit to their funding and they would sell when the right offer came along.
    We all thought with the big talk (mainly from Rahic) that they would be capable of investing in the club yet after that first great season under McCall Rahic thought he knew better and told Stuart we needed to reduce the budget, allowing Meredith to walk (when the talk was offering contracts at Christmas) and it's been a disaster ever since.
    This season is looking very good at the moment but there are things that will need sorting be that strengthening in certain areas, the Doyle situation needs sorting, so there might be a clue come January of how serious Stefan is with regards getting promotion this season.
    So in conclusion nothing wrong in wanting progress/better but very little point IMO going on about it when Stefan has done what he promised and funded so far, a manager, backroom staff and team that should be capable of getting us back into league one.
     
  14. Campbell's soup

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    He might even buy one of your Big Issues.
     
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    Could be worth 1billion.

    He's useless to us if he's not spending his money to improve the club and move it forward.. utter useless!
     
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    Nice to see you back, Mrs O :)

    I would imagine that many, if not most will agree with your post. However - As stated a short while ago ...... This subject was done and exhausted MONTHS ago ! Groundhog day, indeed.
     
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    As a realist I am happy that we are as some have said "ticking along" because after last seasons shambles we could quite easily have continued to spiral downwards.

    We have a great opportunity to get promotion this season and some are calling the club to kick on. Well from where I am looking we are kicking on just nicely.

    Take a look at our injury list and have a few back and we will be a much stronger outfit on the pitch.

    3rd with games in hand is something we could only have dreamed of in the summer.

    I would love us to be in the championship asap. And then stay there. That may be the point where SR steps aside. Who knows.
     
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    Portsmouth were a supporter owned club for a while. Pompey have been a huge club in the past and arguably have a stronger footballing tradition than we have and a bigger following. The club, ie its supporters, owned its own ground (Fratton Park) and its training facilities. And yet they struggled to raise additional investment from their fan base to fund a promotion push. The only way to do this in the end was to put the club up for sale on condition that the new owner would provide additional funding over and above the buying price. It needed a rich owner (Michael Eisner) for this to be successful and he committed additional money to improving facilities at Fratton Park and more of his own money to increase the playing budget in order to strengthen the squad. Coincidentally this all happened in parallel with R&R buying our club. So far for Pompey, it was a good call from the previous supporter-owners.

    Given Pompey's experience and looking at how few clubs are supporter owned (and none in the Championship), it would be a huge gamble for any supporters to do what you suggest. I doubt whether you'd find sufficient interest in the fan base to do it successfully. For better or worse, we have a cheap ticketing policy and still can't fill the ground. If you believe that there are sufficient numbers who would put their hands in their pockets to buy the club, let JR know and he could always have a go at selling them a season ticket next time.
     
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    Winner :party::party:
     
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    Is that how Rupp Justifies double the price he paid :p
     
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