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What are Rupp's Plans for City?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Fordy117, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. ahar964

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    In my opinion, if Rupp could get out with minimal losses he'd be gone
     
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  2. Tolly856

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    Who mentioned anything about a buyer? You asked where we'd be without Rupp, and the simple answer is that if Rupp was to leave tomorrow we'll simply carry on as we are. Rhodes continuing to run things behind the scenes and the club funding itself as it has done since R + R first took over the club.

    There has also been interest from other parties. Either RO has let it slip or it's a sheer coincidence but the £10M valuation is true, and is something I heard weeks ago.
     
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    I have read umpteen posts on here from Fordy who seems to have a lot of time on his hands. If he really wants to make a difference why not examine the possibility of turning Bradford City into a fan owned club?
    It has worked successfully for Hearts here in Edinburgh and being a German Rupp would be familiar with the concept.
     
  4. ahar964

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    Apologies to everyone if we are going round in circles again. RO confirmed on this thread that 10m isn't the valuation of the club. It is the amount needed, in his opinion, to buy the club AND also take it forward
     
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  5. Tolly856

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    Yes, I know what he was saying. The £10M evaluation is something I heard weeks ago from my usual source and Rupp apparently knocked back a couple of offers as none of them matched his asking price. Either RO knows something too and he started backtracking to suggest otherwise or it was nothing more than a coincidence. Either way though, if it is true the ridiculously high price tag is probably a clear indication that he doesn't want to sell.
     
  6. ahar964

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    Ok. I don't think he was back tracking because to me it was clear from his original post. That doesn't mean however that Rupp isn't setting too high a price. Maybe he wants his original investment back when quite obviously the club is worth less now. But it's about more than offers to buy the club. Do you know if the potential buyers have the funds and the desire to invest heavily over and above the purchase price?
     
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    How does he leave? He can only leave if he sells, in which case somebody else will have to fulfill the role of acting as guarantor for losses. Or he liquidates or puts the club in to administration and loses all his investment. And Tolly says since he got involved there’s been a relegation and he’s had the McBurnie money. The club is in a far worse state on and off the pitch than before he arrived. Coped for 113 years without him, will cope after him.
     
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    Nice to see you back, Mrs O :)

    I would imagine that many, if not most will agree with your post. However - As stated a short while ago ...... This subject was done and exhausted MONTHS ago ! Groundhog day, indeed.
     
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    CORRECT (nearly !! ;) ) R & L DID indeed keep us 'ticking over' ........ But needed Cup runs and former player sales to feed that diet. Herr Rupp can tick us over without those. It was EDIN who sold the dream of moving City forward and up the Leagues ..... SR was only guilty of trusting and believing ER. (Like all of US !! :( )
     
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    We might well cope, but many on here, me included, want us to do more than cope. Look I have no great love for Rupp, but I see no evidence of any buyer with the financial clout and the will to take us forward. I would be more than happy to be proved wrong
     
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    As a realist I am happy that we are as some have said "ticking along" because after last seasons shambles we could quite easily have continued to spiral downwards.

    We have a great opportunity to get promotion this season and some are calling the club to kick on. Well from where I am looking we are kicking on just nicely.

    Take a look at our injury list and have a few back and we will be a much stronger outfit on the pitch.

    3rd with games in hand is something we could only have dreamed of in the summer.

    I would love us to be in the championship asap. And then stay there. That may be the point where SR steps aside. Who knows.
     
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    I know nothing and ahar is right. Read my original post I was quite specific that my comments were my own opinion. Don't try to make something out of nothing.
     
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  13. Fordy117

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    Really? Can he?

    Doyle loaned out to get other player in.

    He wanted a cup run even in the Mickey Mouse cup.

    Running at break even is no different to Rhodes and Lawn ownership. I am struggling to see what Mr Rupp brings to the table that Mr Rhodes didn't or any other business person wouldn't.
     
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  14. Keefly Bantam

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    In your simple world all businessmen other than ML-JR and SR would be easily capable of running City and getting us to kick on etc etc. Not true.

    You are a self confessed business man so why don't YOU put a consortium together , buy the club and put your money where your mouth is? That way you could get us to the PL in no time at all. Its simple really, just throw lots of cash into the club and we will miraculously start to climb the football pyramid.

    I mean that worked well for Bolton and Bury didn't it?

    Well that's what you are saying isn't it? Spend spend spend.
     
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  15. Fordy117

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    Once again you miss the point.

    Please stop going on about Bury and Bolton.

    Bury- had offers. The owner brought the club for £1 and allegedly wanted around 2m for it.

    Bolton - Anderson was disqualified from being a company director for 8 years and in his first year paid himself over 500k for taking over the club.

    Look, the title of the thread is what Mr Rupp is going to do to take the club forward.
     
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    Would you still go to a ground called "the hand car wash stadium" because that will be the name if fordy takes over there will be some sleeping on the streets of Bradford tonight with more money than him. Why do you think he always evades the answer when people ask him about purchasing the club.
     
  17. Keefly Bantam

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    You conveniently ignore the main thrust of my post....again.

    Get off your arris and do it yourself. You are probably the most scathing poster on here about how the club is run. So stop bleating and get a consortium together. Then go and get us to the Championship and stop there and see how easy that really is. And how much that would cost you. Would make your eyes water pal.
     
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  18. Keefly Bantam

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    Finally I agree with a post of yours. ;)

    He should rename himself Michael Howard. He never answered questions either.
     
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    Really, how much does it take per person? I've just read a post on Camra (sorry, I'll get me anorak) about the downfalls of investing in craft beer breweries. And this is an industry that is growing.

    We get 14k on the gate on average. Matches approx the amount of season tickets we've sold. I suppose you could judge this number as our "hard core" fan base. However, we took 60k to Wembley. We've got 180k followers on Facebook. If everyone on FB donated a tenner, we'd get 1.8 million. Which in actually fact is f**k all. If everyone on FB donated 100 quid, then we'd get 18 million. Which is not bad, and would buy us our ground (which is the main thing that is stopping investors buying us), but while it's not bad, it's completely untrue. The real number is probably based around the 14k attendance, which means 100 quid turns into 1.4 million, which has been mentioned is fu?k all.

    Fan based clubs work in a market where costs are low, and progression aren't much higher. Scotland and non league clubs are pretty much the same. Look at the "fan" based investors of Salford. Not really working out for them at the moment is it?

    Rupp needs to either get engaged - is ANYONE from Bradford City FC or in fact the city trying to do this - or sell out to someone who has a bit of passion about the club. And in all fairness, who are they? McCall must have a few bob, same umm...I'm struggling, Beagrie maybe? Kamara? and some of the other ex players, but really, are they going to form some consortium? Doubt it.

    We just have to hope Rupp gets a hard on for us soon :D
     
  20. Dennis

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    Portsmouth were a supporter owned club for a while. Pompey have been a huge club in the past and arguably have a stronger footballing tradition than we have and a bigger following. The club, ie its supporters, owned its own ground (Fratton Park) and its training facilities. And yet they struggled to raise additional investment from their fan base to fund a promotion push. The only way to do this in the end was to put the club up for sale on condition that the new owner would provide additional funding over and above the buying price. It needed a rich owner (Michael Eisner) for this to be successful and he committed additional money to improving facilities at Fratton Park and more of his own money to increase the playing budget in order to strengthen the squad. Coincidentally this all happened in parallel with R&R buying our club. So far for Pompey, it was a good call from the previous supporter-owners.

    Given Pompey's experience and looking at how few clubs are supporter owned (and none in the Championship), it would be a huge gamble for any supporters to do what you suggest. I doubt whether you'd find sufficient interest in the fan base to do it successfully. For better or worse, we have a cheap ticketing policy and still can't fill the ground. If you believe that there are sufficient numbers who would put their hands in their pockets to buy the club, let JR know and he could always have a go at selling them a season ticket next time.
     

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