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NO. We used to argue about unfair decisions and think referees were idiots at times. We still argue about unfair decisions, which seem even more unfair than before, and know for certain referees are idiots at times and have to put up with instantaneous joy removed from goals scored and game delays in reaching the wrong decision. Where do players' arms start and end next season? Will an ear count for offside? Did the defender intend to play the ball as it went through? And how hard will a striker have to kick a defender and go down howling for a penalty before he gets booked for kicking the defender? We've seen strikers kick defenders several times this season and win penalties on VAR. Everybody is still arguing about everything. Just go back to let the ref decide and us wondering if (s)he is an idiot sometimes. I preferred it when we were less certain. NO.NO.NO.


https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12322415/var-survey-40-per-cent-of-fans-likely-to-turn-away-from-live-football

The survey also found that 95 per cent of fans who had experienced VAR in stadiums and 94 per cent who had watched matches on TV with VAR decisions said that the setup had made watching matches less enjoyable.

 

It's instead of throw ins, bound to take longer and another unnecessary change.....

 

Yes that is true, I think it is where the seam on the ball hits the wicket, if the seam is on the outside of the wicket it becomes an umpire decision and within the context of the game. Mind you this latest innovation with lights on the wickets is becoming a talking point, although it takes the tech forward ie as soon as the bails are disturbed it lights up, but on several incidents in this World Cup the ball has hit the wickets quite hard and the bails have not come off. On one occasion the lights came on and the bails didn’t come off. The rule is they have to come off as it has happened before but very rarely, I was wondering is all this tech making them heavier?

The GLT is very good and there is no argument from me on this, I think VAR is not right atm and the officials on field appear to be negating their role.

 

The thing about the Lingard non goal is that we have no idea whether the linesman gave it or not as they are not allowed! My view is that very few would have given that as offside. @SimonW says, you can’t detect with any accuracy the release of the ball.

 

Are these new rule changes for all leagues?

 

Our players cant hit the net from 2 yards no chance of hitting an opposition defenders arm.

 

Will be very entertaining in the Premier league this coming season, Match of the day may take all night with all the controversies of the VAR decisions discussed and talked over

 

First we see Leuko the Cameroon player openly catch Nikita Parris in the face only a yellow no VAR, then another indecent where a Cameroon player spits on an England forward no action from the referee or VAR, Cameroon should be down to 9 women, no point in having VAR if the officials don't use it.

 

Another balls up by VAR today. Never hand ball in a million years. Ruining the game. Just a chance for a third party to get it wrong.

 

I agree about the celebration issue but how weree Wolves robbed?

 

Hate VAR with a passion. Was it referred to 9 times during the Man City game last weekend?, its a farce, and should be binned immediately.

Although, I didnt approve of the review system when introduced to Cricket, at least Cricket is a game, where stopping for a review doesnt spoil the continuity of a game. As for football, no thanks

 

Actually having been there I've mixed feelings, it does help that after the decision, they replay the incident on the big screens. Of course a couple of the smaller PL teams don't currently have big screens, but I'm sure they'll eventually catch up.

 

if that ball took no deviation from Laporte's arm on its way through, how could it meet the criteria of :creating or scoring" a goal? Maybe next season they will rewrite that rule too. I get that they don't want goals being scored by "accidental" handball but this is silly. It should definitely be rewritten to allow a ball hitting a player off a defender (Wolves last week) and consideration given to this.

 

Seriously considering not renewing for next season, IF we're still in the PL

 

tired now but I think I saw a goal ruled out against you yesterday. Is it a conflicted feeling when it happens in your favour?

 

Another week on and I notice some of the pundits are not defending VAR any more and some that are only do so half-heartedly. It will be interesting when somebody breaks a leg after the linesman does not flag immediately for a clear offside.

 

Bloody hell, may as well blame the referee for blowing the whistle for kick off if someone breaks their leg.

 

I'm just pointing out somebody will get injured after an offside where the assistant did not raise the flag and it will get blamed on the advisory not to raise the flag promptly. A slightly different scenario will be events that take place before play is called back for a VAR penalty the ref misses. What if someone gets a second yellow for a basic foul (not violent) and sent off but play gets called back for a penalty that took place before? A second goal would be scrubbed off so consistency says a second yellow should be too. Have they already thought things through enough to rule on such things? I think they've rushed this through too quickly and should have trialled more.

I preferred reliance on refs myself, and thought many in the past were great, but the constant rule changes and top-down diktat mean they struggle a bit more. However, part of what made the game great was the occasional controversy and how the teams and crowd reacted to it. I think VAR is sterilising football because of money. Some people might like that but I don't. Don't expect me to hold back in criticising it.

I wish this thread would get some more coverage. I'd like to know if its 2:1 against VAR on a bigger vote. Any chance it could be stickied to the City forum for a bit?