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  1. NorthernMonkey

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    No, it's a complete nonsense and ruining the game.

    Goal line technology is fine but that's as far as we should go with it.
     
  2. Skyebantam

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    I think it’s clear and obvious that VAR is crap.
     
  3. Interested Bystander

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    Guess the Premier League forgot to mention its latest Covid-19 precaution... the ball has to be at least 2m over the line for it to count...
     
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  4. bantam65

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    Bundled over by his own player though.
     
  5. Botswana Bantam

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    Another decision in the Man City V Spurs game.

    We weren't asking for VAR so that we could disallow goals where a ball brushes an arm in a natural position which leads to a goal.

    Ridiculous.

    The way some of these rules are being implemented and interpreted is wrong.

    VAR is for reversing obvious mistakes not becoming the centre of attention and disallowing goals where there's pretty much nothing wrong.
     
  6. Interested Bystander

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    Very much so, like last week against City, but losing the spontaneity is a huge thing when you watch a game live, it's a big part of the experience.
     
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  7. Edin Nowhere

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    Well VAR has been proven completely pointless again tonight.

    At least if the referee got it wrong, like he does in the lower leagues you knew it was human error.

    When the referee gets it wrong and a guy watching multiple replays taking 5 min over it still gets it wrong then it seems more sinister.

    The Wolves stonewall pen tonight that wasn't given was an absolute joke.
     
  8. SimonW

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    I've always been against it. It's something that they have been bullied into adding without any thought.

    If you look at GLT that was something Football was put under pressure to add for ages but they didn't let themselves get forced into it because it wasn't fit for purpose at the time. Look at tennis as an example, Hawkeye takes an age and the margin of error is actually fairly high. Instead, football said they need it more accurate, consistent and quick and even though the tech companies said the requirements were impossible to meet and it seemed that way as in the open test sessions every solution failed multiple times but footballs big business so these companies kept refinding their tech and we soon had a situation where multiple solutions all passes. And because of that GLT is brilliant, it doesn't disrupt the game as its quick, its consistent no matter the location of the goal it happens or the height the ball is at and the margin of error is tiny.

    And that's the kind of requirements all tech in football should have to abide by. VAR fails on pretty much every count, it's slow, it still involves a massive amount of opinion and its not even able to be used consistently.

    There is alot of upcoming tech that it would have been better off holding off on VAR and putting the money and resources into that. For example, a lot of clubs data analysis departments currently use player tracking of both training and matches. While its not used live during the matches its certainly something it could do, infact the NFL has been using it in matches on a test basis. This would, for example, potentially allow an instant decision on offsides. Maybe even accurately than a person as it can even use algorithms to decide when a person who is offside is interfering which for the officials is difficult and even for a VAR official ends up being opinion as they have no hard data to decide. Another area it could resolve is if a foul in or outside the box as it would have exact data on where the players are.

    Tech can be great for sport but the question always has to be asked if the tech in question is right for each sport. Just because its right for one doesn't mean its right for another
     
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  9. bantam65

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    Have they done away with VAR?
    Surely that was a goal for Sheffield United.
     
  10. Frank Castle

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    Sounds like someone has fooked up massively.
     
  11. Offcomedun

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    And, of course, it doesn't do away with controversies about interpretation. Man U had an excellent goal disallowed yesterday because the Spurs players appealed that Son had been hit in the face by McTominay. What actually happened was that Son was blatantly trying to grab McTominay's shirt. In trying to brush him off he accidentally made slight contact with Son's face and Son went down like he'd been uppercut by Joe Frazier. The ref watched the replay, focused only on the touch to the face (which he deemed as accidental, otherwise McTominay would have received a second yellow and been sent off), ignored the context, applied no commonsense and disallowed a perfectly good goal. Madness. The goal should have stood and Son should have been booked for simulation.
     
  12. How

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    The problem with it is the extra official sees all the action on a slow mo replay. Every bit of contact or touch of the hand for handball looks blatant when it’s slowed down to slow mo.

    It should be used for offsides as that should be clear, however I don’t think that’s ready yet either. The angle isn’t always right they use and someone can look offside on one and not the other.


    It’s been rushed in and isn’t working imo.
     
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  13. trevor

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    I think VAR has its faults but only by using and refining the technology will it be got right, The worrying thing about it is that it still involves a human opinion watching the screen and determining the outcome which in some cases would just be better letting the officials on the pitch who see it live make the decision
     
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    Another sh1te bit of VAR tonight.
     
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  15. Onside

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    I also think having watched it in the Women’s World Cup, think it should be abandoned until they can get it right. It is taking the joy out of scoring a goal, and I think it alters the game completely. What is the point of having a ref and Lino? Last night both the ref and Lino missed the offside, but who can blame them it was literally inches. The research says you will always have errors on close decision as it is physically impossible to look at two places at once. The question is now, do we go completely computer/VAR or stay with our current system with very strict rules on what could be looked at on the computer? Relying on VAR is obviously influencing how the refs and lino operate.
     
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  16. YungNath

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    If players weren't such a set of cheating shits, VAR wouldn't be necessary.
     
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  17. Tennesseebantam

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    Its a pain Dave, if only it was as definite as the goal line technology.
     
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  18. bantam65

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    Man Utd fan by any chance?
     
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  19. Frank Castle

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    This last week has shown that VAR simply isn't working. It's completely ruining the game. Surely nobody can defend it after the shambles of a day it had yesterday?

    We tried it, it didn't work, so scrap it.
     
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  20. Frank Castle

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    It's not VAR, that's goal line technology which is different. Maybe Villa forgot to switch it on? ;)
     
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