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Are you a pirate?

 

Mixed messages. Is it a long term plan or not?

They had a manager that showed he could “improve each individual player” but they fired him for dropping 3 league positions in fecking January!

 

They had exactly what they claim to be looking for, but fired him for dropping 3 league positions. Where are these lessons they’re learned? Are the lessons they’re claiming to have learned “feck the English way, managers don’t work, we want head coach German model” because they haven’t learned much at all if it is.

 

You could see that something was building under Parky. We need to start that progress again and commit to it.

Get 5 or 6 good youngsters in the team who will develop over 4 or 5 years.

Parky did it with Darby, Meredith, McCardle & Hanson.

It didn't feel like we were building last season.

 

With the update set out and the criteria Warburton would be a good choice

 

That statement does not fill me with confidence at all, we are going nowhere with these in charge. Everything is being done on the cheap and penny pinching. We are going to be a feeder club, develop young cheap players and hopefully sell them on, Crewe style, all while the chairman line their pockets with the profits. Apart from purchasing the club they will not invest any more of their own money into the club but yet they cannot understand why season tickets sales are down.
Rahic and his wife are reported to be taking a combined £200000 salary so Long term period is fine, sit back Rahic and enjoy raping the club.

 

They could but they’d be lieing.

They went to be Crewe Alexandra for a few years before going for promotion. But if they think the majority of the Bradford City fan base will accept that they’re wrong.

 

I’ll accept a long term plan but why the hell could that not have been under Mr Bradford City himself Stuart MCCall

 

There is no comparison. If Huddersfield had of lived within in their means, they'd be in League 1 with us.

Their owner supplemented them for £millions every season.

Calculated risks have got them to the PL. Something our owners aren't prepared to do.

 

For me it is the way to go. Sponsor the development team, get further investment to fund this venture. Great advertising, supporting healthy young footballers, what’s not to like? A gym chain? One of those companies who promote healthy eating? Anything along those lines would good. Let’s promote ourselves and get companies interested. They could have photos and videos promoting their products and incorporating the young tea, this is the time to do it with the World Cup coming up when ppl are interested in football, what about foreign investors.

 

I don't really have a problem with them having a philosophy and a plan in place for constant development and investing in youth. The problem is only one of them so far (Robinson) has looked half decent.

I don't see this philosophy ever getting us promoted from League 1 unfortunately.

 

Yep theyll be after installing a puppet, yes man, sycophant regime so they can pull all the strings from a safe distance and heap all the blame on to when it inevitably goes tits up yet again.

 

One of the major criticisms of Rahic was that he was hands on last season and that the man in charge didn't have more control. (Seemingly) Nothing has changed in that regard. As for snapping up targets quicker, we struggled with it in January but had absolutely no problem with doing it in pre season. The January recruits didn't improve our results even when we'd got them all in so It wasn't a major reason for our downfall last season. Squad depth is important but we'll struggle to do it operating on a similar budget to last season, which is what it is looking like at the moment. So I'm not really sure what lessons have been learnt at this stage and the fact that Rupp admitted to not knowing why we fell away after the new year shows that he doesn't even know what the mistakes are, never mind learning from them.

 

Quite but people won’t accept us signing kids and pissing about with developing players while we float around mid table (at best) and renewals will indeed drop even further.

We’re in league 1 - we can’t afford a development squad and too notch youth set up and stay competitive - that’s why no bastard other club does it. Why they feel we can I’ve no idea.

 

Well this head coach idea has been a disaster for Huddersfield hasn't it. Just think if we had picked up a German reserve team coach who was a friend of Jurgen Klopp and then called him head coach,the meltdown on here would blow up this site. Still as Huddersfield pick up another 100 million for another season in premier league I imagine they'll see the error of their ways and listen to the pitchfork brigade on here and change their rediculous idea.

 

You say that, but here's a quote from Wagner ahead of this season:

“At first I thought maybe this is the best moment to say: ‘Thank you very much, always when we see each other in our lives, we will celebrate together,’” he said before explaining why that thought did not last. “I always had the feeling in the last 18 months that I had an owner on my side that I really trust. He really wants to keep me at this club. I don’t have to play a role here. I can be exactly the man I am as a person and a manager.

“I think we have one of the best owners in British football, a local man and fan who supports you with everything he’s able to do. This is not something you should leave only because you have a better financial offer. And I like the people here, I like my team. I am such a happy man because I have a new challenge and still the same people around me. Nothing is better than that.”

I don't see much in the way of a parallel, to be honest.

 

Being kept informed is great but what we are told has to be the truth, that's something that they have struggled with and is the cause of many of their problems.

If they'd told us this from the start and cut out all the three year plan (aspiration! ) crap, backing the manager bollocks etc, most of us would have been onside.

 

I agree. Can you imagine if the shop gets a refit next Summer, and then the tea bars get a deep clean and a lick of paint the following year??

Seriously though, it reads that they have completely stepped away from the 3 year plan. They recognise that it is unrealistic.

If their long-term plan is to be successful, and to have any credibility, I think we need to see some younger players playing decent football next season. If the outcome of this summer is a journeyman manager, who did a good PowerPoint on the day, playing a version of hoof with a ragtag selection of loans and the current squad cobbled together through August, we will have lost another year.

A Head Coach that brings in different ideas, supported by a recruitment that gives us balance in the squad e.g. wide players, a second right footed centre-half then the vision is at least being backed up. A decent pitch to play on, and we might start to make progress again after the debacle of the second half of last season.

 

It’s bell ends like the OP that are doing my nut in - taking something positive (the communication rather than the actual message/content) and attempting to break it down and re-hash it to suit their own agenda. Wish some of our ‘supporters’ would just fck right off! Feel free to edit my post and put in ‘red’ what I really mean....damn fck nut!

 

I just want things to be a bit clearer - as @JonButterfield said yesterday - if we're going to settle for a period of consolidation, and anything more is a bonus then let us know, and probably more importantly, let any prospective manager know this.
it's no good saying all this, on the same day that Simon Grayson has decided to leave because they expect him to deliver a promotion while providing a consolidation and introduce young players budget and philosophy.

this is after they told us last week lessons have been learned, what lessons? I would have hoped it would have been to do with not expecting promotion on low budgets, and not sacking managers at the first sign of a rocky patch when over performing but it wouldn't seem that way on the face of it.