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Transfers (also ambition/investment/ground & lots more.....)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Park bantam, Jun 5, 2020.

  1. Dennis

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    The McBurnie deal has been phenomenal and has certainly helped the owner in providing much needed financial support for the club. But here was a young kid who didn't seem to have a future at VP being sold to Swansea who at the time had just been promoted and were under pressure from the PL to build up their development squad and to do it quickly. It was the perfect storm for us. It was a windfall, on the lines of the League Cup run which brought significant money into the club and without either, I dread to think where we might be now.
     
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  2. Fordy117

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    But we shouldn't be in this state..

    For years the club has been run poorly and now Rupp is loaning us money because the club doesn't plan ahead to protect itself.

    I bet Rhodes has had more extensions to his house than the improves he has made to this club. A poorly run business.

    So s the McBurnie money now now going into Rupp's back pocket? or is it going towards the club?
     
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  3. Dennis

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    As you say, it's highly unlikely that we'll be a significant beneficiary from the EPPP regime when PL and most Championship clubs can spot young talent and attract them away from VP for relatively easy money. The occasional one might get through the net but that would be a big long term gamble.



    ps It's EPPP as in Elite Player Performance Plan
     
  4. Interested Bystander

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    Probably another Alfa Romeo, same as the players, over priced, unreliable,expensive to maintain and poor residual values
     
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    Given that a concussed slug has more speed of thought than the EFL, then surely now is the time to sign reasonable players, to build a squad for next season. This could be done before the introduction of:
    • Budget cap at £1.5million
    • Limit on size of squad
    • Home developed player requirement.
    Not rocket science, but surely the club could demonstrate some reasonable ambition. An analogy is driving on the M62 for miles at 30mph, because you know that when you come off, you will have to slow down to that speed. :unsure:

    Operate within the current regulations!
     
  6. Dennis

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    I agree with you about doing something quickly but time is running out for everybody other than the likes of Salford and Mansfield who have moved quickly on this. We're dithering.

    The current regulations already has a requirement of 8 home grown players in the matchday squad. That'snever been a problem for us or anybody else to my knowledge. Most people get confused between HGPs and Club Developed Players. They are very different. A HGP is just somebody who has been at an FA affiliated club during part of their development. And that applies to the vast number of players plying their trade in the lower leagues. I doubt anybody would have anywhere near 8 CDPs capable of playing first team football!
     
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  7. Rogered Tart

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    It seems a lot of people behind the scenes rated him highly, to them it was no surprise an upcoming ambitious club at the time took what was a very very low risk gamble in terms of what they would lose. It does show what our remit as a club was under Parkinson and we very rarely if ever develop any young talent. I remember him being thrown in at the deep end when Hanson was injured, if Hanson had stayed fit McBurnie would likely have never played a league game for us. A once in generation home run for a team like us. Rupp is an extremely lucky guy, seems we as a club are not.
     
  8. Fordy117

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    We won't though mate....We go at slug speed also. New kit, season ticket refunds, season ticket packages for next season(suppose that is dependent on when the EFL starts and if starting without fans etc).

    Main reason we won't though is because what you say makes sense and we don't want to show that ambition. McCall highlighting the 4 youth players promoted to the squad and using the loan market. I think we have decided already not to splash the cash..I think we are in bigger trouble than we make out.
     
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    Wouldn't call Rupp lucky mate...For a bloke that doesn't like football(so they say) this deal to buy Bradford City has been a disaster from start to finish for him.

    The club isn't run correctly at board level to generate luck..Poorly run for years.
     
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  10. JonButterfield

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    The owner of Mansfield is worth 1-5 million pounds.

    Even if someone is bankrolling them, their potential is very limited as a town/club that size.

    With the number of times they've changed hands, they're almost certainly Bury Mk II unless someone knows something about their financial structure?

    I wouldn't be jealous of them one bit, they look like just another shambles in waiting.
     
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  11. Park bantam

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    Spot on
     
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    Am I right in thinking the club are yet to name which 4 youngsters have been given pro deals for next season?
     
  13. Idlebantam

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    I was going to post the other day and ask whether I have missed an announcement. If I haven't, I wonder why the secrecy?
     
  14. bantam2708

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    Yes, very strange as clubs normally announce this in their retained lists.
     
  15. How

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    Possibly the offered players haven’t accepted yet?
     
  16. bantam2708

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    Would be strange considering Sparks and McCall have said they'll be part of the squad.
     
  17. JonButterfield

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    If they can sign youngsters and not announce it....
     
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    It has been stated on here that Rupp has no interest in football and was only in it for the money. I have wondered ever since he bought us if that was really the case. Now he's a businessman so I'm sure he would hope to make money, or at least not lose it. But I do wonder if his reason for buying the club was not as a business investment but as an ultimate "boys toy", something his wealthy mates haven't got. Along the lines of his motor racing - that probably costs him too. Just my thoughts
     
  19. loz

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    The problem in Midland Road stand is that the taps are not maintained so they don't turn off. Once turned on, they run for ever so any hot water will soon disappear.
     
  20. Park bantam

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    Just what we need but can we sign him

     
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