Transfer Rumours 2019/20

From someone who thinks Stuart is better than Parky. You couldn’t make it up

 

what in the world has that got to do with anything?

 

Problem is Doyle and Wyke are about as mobile as a static caravan. Put them both together and you have the equivalent pace of Jack and Victor from Still Game on TV. Games all about pace these days. Can't do without it.

 

It has as much relevance as your post.

 

how's that then?
we're in a thread talking about this years team, how we've done, how many we'll keep etc. my post was very relevant in your response to you having the flabbergasting opinion of wanting to keep the majority of the team.


you just brought up Parkinson, for reasons i can't fathom.

 

I have tried to understand your mindset, Park, really I have. I don't mind a bit of positivity about the place, and someone times it can have an affect but I cannot for the life of me work out any logic in your rhetoric.

we've had the worst season we've ever had. we've gone on losing runs of 6 or 7 games multiple times. our players go missing with mystery 'injuries' for months on end, if they do play the put in that little effort you can't even say they're coasting, the captain of the team disrespected the armband and chucked it away. they turned up for 3 week in December thinking they'd get a move away. when they didn't they downed tools again.

here you are advocating we give them a clean slate and keep them because they'll be 'useful' in league 2. it's absolute balderdash. genuinely bewildering.

happy clappers have nothing on you. you are unbelievably positive about everything.
we could lose 6-0 at home to Solihull Moors next year and you'd be on here slating people for booing the team and slagging them off, saying that it won't achieve anything.

I firmly believe you are just as bad, if not worse, people continuing to support, turn up, clap the sheer ineptitude and lack of effort and feckless attitude of our players will do absolutely nothing but make them even more complacent than they already are.

 

Right let’s talk about that then. Whether we like it or not we are not going to be able to offload all of this years team so we need to compliment those that are left with the right sort of players for instance Doyle has always scored goals with a big man beside him. Bring in a wide player would help others. A complete clear out is not realistic. So now quote where I made the “Flabbergasting opinion” that I wanted to keep the majority of the team. Your interpretation is simply flabbergasting

 

Once again a complete fabrication of what I said and what I think

 

Come on Ricc.......did you experience the Docherty era? Its been a shit season but to slag fellow City fans off because they hope for better times is more unbelievable. Its almost as if you WANT people to fail so you can say you were right? I'm pretty sure thats not right though.

 

This is worse than the Docherty era. and people are enabling it with their nonsense positivty.

there's hoping for better times and there's talking complete drivel.

I hope for better times, everyone does, it doesn't mean I can't recognise failure when I see it, and criticise when it's more than warranted.

 

no it isn't.

 

Oh yes it is Dame ric

 

What i don’t get is why they would down tools given that big bad Edin, the apparent architect of our doom, was on his way out.

I know Wright was an Edin yes man and was probably pining for his master.

But what of the rest of the squad?
What other factor was affecting moral so much that they were trying to engineer moves?

 

Well there's where we'll agree to disagree.....oh what social media wouldn't have been like back then.

 

This is as bad as the Docherty era, so many similarities with the squad. Its been a full season in the making, from the unbelievably pathetic performances in pre season and quite frankly the worst managerial appointment i've ever seen, one which ranks as bad as Hockaday at Leeds, to the worst transfer window in January i can ever remember, to some of the worst performances i've seen from a City side in nearly 40 years. This was the gift that kept on giving. And i know what Ricc is alluding to, even to the bitter end we had 'fans' with their heads stuck firmly up their arse. Even after arguably the worst team performance in my memory, the Walsall away game, there will still some 'fans' deludedly hanging on to some far away dream of retaining league 1 football, 'Oxfords a win game, Blackpool's a win game etc....'

Theres a fine line between giving support to your team and blindly following someone to destruction. I agree with the principle of a fresh start, we have no choice if we want to eventually move forward. But Gary Bowyer hit the nail on the head when he said the whole club has to change its attitude, its got used to failure in the last two years. And that doesn't just mean the owners and the players. That means the fans too. When we jokingly coined the phrase on TCA 'just happy to have a club to support' we fully meant it as a dig towards a large section of our fan base.

Raise your standards and higher your expectations. Because if we as fans don't, then the dross that turn out on the pitch every week certainly won't.

 

Well I think what Ricc has said 're our Dec purple patch
being down to performing in order to get a transfer in
Jan window makes a lot of sense.Also, if true,it sends
a very distinct message that these players have the
ability to compete if they want to,they just don't want
to.
So,what can we derive from that? Something is amiss
but what?

Have fans upset them for being rubbish? It's up to them
to play for the shirt and the fans if they want praise and
respect.

If that's not the reason there must be something deeper
going on and if that's the case is there a danger it could
carry on next season?

 

Thought this post was from @Fordy117 at first!

 

None of what has happened in the past 18 months has been realistic has it? Frankly, a mass clearout is in my opinion THE ONLY WAY Rupp can prove to me as a fan that his words about the rebuild mean something. And if he doesnt like it he's a poor businessman for not being as prepared to deal with the worst case scenario as the best one, as they were both happy to have the plaudits and run on the pitch when McGod was spanking teams for fun at VP.

 

Read all your post which I agree with - but I’d argue this has been worse. The Docherty era was pure grim, but I don’t think the attitude of the players and level of underachievement was as bad as this year.
Whilst we’ve had obvious shortfalls in quality in certain (most areas) this year, the players should have been good enough to not be the worst team of 24 this time, and I’d argue not even in the bottom four.
Poor management and even worse application and effort from the players has contributed massively - in addition to the obvious but unknown underlying problems at the club.

 

At one extreme you have the happy clappers who probably sleep in their city tops clutching a billy bantam soft toy.
At the other end you have uber sceptics who whinge and moan regardless of how we’re doing, almost to the point they want us to fail just to feel important.
Most city fans fall somewhere on the spectrum between the two extremes.
By the laws of probability, sometimes the happy clappers will be ‘proved right’, and sometimes the sceptics will be ‘proved right’.
Yes i get some did have inside knowledge of Edin’s shenanigans. But most were going off hearsay and gossip. Some were ‘on the fence’ whilst others were firmly in the pro and anti Edin camps.
Some quite frankly thought the club needed a shake up and were seduced by Edin’s clean cut ‘no nonsense’ image. Others thought we were fine as long as the team was performing on the field, turning a blind eye to off field ‘issues’.

Bottom line is we need to draw a line under it and find a way forward and not dwell on the past