Train Strikes

Lol, aye

As the gap grows, the turkeys keep voting for Christmas, honestly, makes absolutely no sense.

It's just bizarre people would accept that some live like kings and the rest struggle to pay bills

 

It actually was mentioned at another point, the train drivers are part of the Union on behalf of the many, many workers who do not earn more than that.

It's not the train drivers that need better pay, and the union actually believes many, many people should fight for more, not just the railway employees.

It's a redundant argument, tbh, considering 70k is peanuts to those profiteers at the top who are siphoning off our money.

 

Get real, it has always been so, why the politics of envy, in a free society like ours there will always be the rich and also us workers that oil the cogs, wouldn't work would it if we were all rich but we all have the opportunity to do as well as we can, I have no wish to get in to a prolonged argument with anyone re this but I wouldn't want to change the status quo, we are fortunate enough though to live in the best country in the world so make the most of it...

 

Peanuts compared with Dempseys salary package of £109k too.

 

It's rigged to be like that, it's not a fair game lol

Everything is against someone like you

 

If it was a company and not a union he might be in 8 or 9 figures and you wouldn't moan. 109k lol

 

You are right - For once I agree

However youre speaking about meritocracy which I agree with but unfortunately the system is not a meritocratic one. The gap between rich and poor is the highest its ever been. There are working families who find themselves in poverty in the UK. If you are a single parent its odds on you will be finding it hard to make ends meet and statistically your children will find it harder to progress.

Looking at it from a geographical point of view, it is a fact that under investment in the north like bradford create a disparity in opportunity. We had this argument a few weeks back when that bradford on the front line documentary was on. The govt promised you tory voters that bradford would have a new train station and be on the NPR high speed line. What happened to that?

When an economy is overbalanced in the favour of a geographic area or a persons class then it is a systemic issue. Those issues need redressing and its far from communism to fight for your own livelihood or a fairer system of economic governance.

By being ideological about it you end up sounding like a bitch of the rich. Instead of being more pragmatic and fighting for a true meritocracy.

 

Good, let's give it a go, being one of 5 kids living on a council estate in the 60's with working parents who never even to their dying day could rustle up £20 between them I think I can vouch that any poverty today doesn't even begin to be compared to those days, poverty today means struggling to pay for their i-phone, taxi trips, scratch cards etc and that's with the highest benefits costs to the country than ever before, but guess what ? we all made it through life with little or no help from others.....

 

The issue is that you can't change the fact that everything ends up in the pockets of the rich.

When the government gave "free" money away during the pandemic normal people either spent the money on stuff or saved it up to spend it at a later date. Eventually therefore the money flowed to Amazon or Ryanair. That's why the rich get richer but how can you stop that?

When "poor" people buy things from "rich" people there is only one natural end game to that.

 

This is that dude's point in those videos - how can people complain about or accuse the unions (any union in any industry) of greed when there are companies like Amazon making an almost infinite amount of money for a tiny number of people, and that's fine because they're deemed untouchable.

Honestly, I just don't think it's comprehensible for a lot of people.

It's too abstract, thinking about how rich the richest people on Earth are, they're just whackadoodle numbers that people can't get their heads round.

So they end up moaning about those making only three or four times the national average.

You couldn't make it up.

 

Using your own logic your parents should have been more responsible with their own money and worked harder

 

Bingo.

 

Thanks for that very useful advice x

 

Lol. So what. Forgetting the fact train drivers aren’t in any dispute for a minute, you’re saying they shouldn’t stand up and protect themselves from a race to the bottom to make you feel better about yourself, and folk accuse the Labour Party of politics of envy, Jesus Christ.

 

Its the same advice you try and spout all the time. They should have pulled themselves up and got a better job

 

The RMT represents approx. 4% of all train drivers, the rest of whom are represented by ASLEF. An RMT members' average salary is nowhere near 70k whatsoever.

 

Are you totally stupid ? do you not think things might have been a bit different 60 years ago, families weren't mollicoddled then as they are today, also dad had 2 jobs and was an inspiration to me in later life..

 

ASLEF are on strike again this saturday, keep up....

 

Nope I don't. I work two jobs, my parents did. Does that mean I'm an inspiration to you too then? Poverty is poverty no matter what era it occurs in, I think you're totally stupid for thinking your era of poverty was somehow special.

 

Then why is @Idlebantam talking about train drivers in response to a video of Eddie Dempsey, who represents the RMT.