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  1. borderlescott

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    Parhetic if they call matches off. Sad that she’s died - RIP - but why ruin everyones weekend by cancelling sport? What does that achieve? We aren’t gonna sit and watch memorial services instead are we. We’ll sit there brassed off that sport has been cancelled.

    Minutes silence, trumpet player on pitch, armbands, and crack on.
     
  2. Dennis

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    Queen Elizabeth wasn't simply a well regarded elderly lady who had tea with Paddington Bear. She was our country's Head of State and part of our history and heritage stretching back more that a thousand years! As HoS, she will be lain in state during a period of mourning so that we can all pay our respects to her prior to her funeral. That's what our country has always done.

    It's right therefore that all of our institutions also pay their respects and reflect this in their own schedules. The FA has had royal patronage for a long time with her grandson Prince William as its President. Of course the FA and the rest of the footballing community will pay their respects and if it means cancelling a couple of games, so be it.
     
  3. SimonW

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    We have put the logo and the header into greyscale as a sign of respect as it seemed the least annoying way to do it. It will be switched back after the Funeral
     
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  4. borderlescott

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    I have some respect and will tow the line on the day of her funeral when everything understandably will be on hold and the entire nation will be watching.

    But why should the wishes of royalists be rammed down my throat?

    A lot of the ‘mourning is fake’. I’d mourn the passing of a relative, to whom I have a genuine connection, but as I’m not older generation, the Monarchy means little to me.

    I respect what she has done in her role over the last 70 years but I don’t see how cancelling sport for 10 days - and closing many other businesses at the same time - equates to showing respect.

    Those who want to mourn can, the rest of us who want to crack on, should be able to. Some won’t even bother watching the funeral, yet we’re all stuck in limbo.
     
  5. Ulysses S Grant

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    The last of her kind, the monarchy will change immeasurably from now on and when future kings die we won't see this at all.

    It's quite right, and wholly appropriate that we mark 70 years of unswerving service and loyalty to the UK & Commonwealth with a period of mourning, and if that means the world stops for a while, then so be it.

    I'm a massive monarchist, but I don't see that being the same after yesterday. She's been part of most of us for all our lives and it's time to show the utmost respect.

    God bless you ma'am.
     
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  6. Dubois

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    As this thread has wandered a bit here's my take on it. My 70 years have almost exactly mirrored the reign of our late queen and, like her, I've experienced a lot over those years. As a young man I was very strongly of a leftish persuasion and I have retained most of those principles to this day, but I've also always been intensely patriotic and see no contradiction between my socialist views and our constitutional monarchy. As a nation we have a unique system of government which is the envy of the world. Only today we have received emails from our many friends in Italy commiserating with us for the loss of our monarch, but also expressing their admiration for the resilience of our institutions. Over the years I've come to realise that practices which I railed against in the sixties are actually a strength, and that the cultural norms that seemed outdated and even immoral at the time actually had their foundations in centuries of practice and tradition that had evolved to suit the nature of the people of these islands. Queen Elizabeth was a superb example of that, upholding the best of the past while accepting the need for change and embracing it, affording us an example to follow. But actually, as long as the monarch isn't a raving idiot, it doesn't much matter who he or she is as long as they respect the postion they find themselves in and ensure that the system works smoothly. We have been very lucky to have had our late monarch and we can only hope that Charles is half as good. I was quite impressed and reassured by his broadcast tonight, but we will see.
    Before you all wade in and tell me how awful the royal family is, I can tell you that, when much younger, I danced with them all, including the queen, in the ballroom at Balmoral Castle on at least half a dozen occasions, and once hitched a lift with our new king deep in the Scottish highlands. Not bad for a working class lad from Little Horton. So you won't tell me anything I don't already know.
    Regarding the cancellations, I'm not really bothered either way. Tomorrow's game's off so I'll go watch some rugby which isn't. We'll play Mansfield some time and when we do these next few days will be long into our memories. Just go with the flow.
     
  7. stubgate13

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    It's sad that's she's passed away she's one of only 3 royals that I belive actually justifies the life of privilege they enjoy. However I have to say why are we even thinking of cancelling sport for 10 days? I'd understand it on the day of the funeral but other than that I can't see why that needs to happen. Sorry if that offends anyone but we're not in the 18th century anymore
     
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  8. Dennis

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    I doubt your views will offend people; you're quite entitled to hold those views imo.

    Personally speaking, my respect is for the serving Head of State, a role which is an intrinsic part of our country's proud heritage stretching back centuries, and definitely doesn't extend to every member of the Royal family!
     
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    I remember where I was when I was told King George had died. Of course we didn't own a television and communal mourning hadn't been invented.
    I was quite excited to watch the Queens coronation on a neighbour's tv.
    She was an old lady who had all her faculties and was well cared for until death.

    A few months ago my wife's parents, both in their 90s, died within 10days of each other. We celebrated their long lives rather mourning for weeks.
     
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    Bizarre in my opinion, would’ve been better to do a minutes silence and wear black armbands to show our respect.

    Can’t imagine she’d have wanted everyone to be sat at home, miserable and bored.
     
  11. Kevin1954

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    So do we all have to be miserable for 1/3 of a month? No of course not , but I dislike intently anyone dictating to me how I grieve and for how long. Same applies to the City disaster , 911 and so on. Life goes on . This country is in a bad enough state already without shutting it down and taking more out of the economy for another 10 days, which in effect these unnecessary “ bans” on sporting events is doing. The immediate aftermath of HM passing aka this weekend is fine, appropriate and measured but 10 days!!
     
  12. SimonW

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    You underestimate how important they are even to you. You might think they are a useless entity that serves no purpose but it's part of the fabric of this country and shapes a big part of our national identity. Without them, we lose a chunk of what defines being British as its the Royal Family that maintains continuity while linking us to our history. Otherwise, we are just another bog-standard republic where our identity is decided solely by whoever is elected to lead. And you just have to look at France to see that being a republic doesn't make things better, they are currently in their FIFTH version in 230 years

    It's also a massively unifying institution, there are so many differences that cause a divide between the nations of the UK but the monarchy is a common link that unifies us, without it Little Jimmy Crankie is much more likely to get her wish and break the United Kingdom up. They are also an important part of the commonwealth which is a useful institution both for us and also the countries in it (hence why even countries who were never in the British Empire are lining up to join). Without the monarchy being the lynchpin it would become a less tight and more political organisation.

    And sure there have had their actual powers restricted since the Civil war ended in 1651 which saw the rise of our political system and its been further chipped away over the years but there is a reason why they choose to keep the Monarchy alongside the Parliamentary system unlike other countries which dissolved the Monarchy. They give continuity and can be used as a sounding board while also providing a certain amount of checks and balances. If we were to become a republic we would still need those checks and balances which would most likely mean adding a president to the prime minister but the president is likely to have more actual powers so you can end up with some butting heads and political tactics getting in the way.

    As for your comments on some of the family members.

    If he did sleep with her what exactly did Andrew do wrong? She was of Age in all the places he is alleged to have had sex with her and there is nothing to suggest he knew she was being trafficked. It seems more he and others were simply caught in Epstiens Honeytrap where he would use the girls to gain favour with powerful people and if those people either found out what was going on or just decided to cut him off he would blackmail them with both the situation but also any information he had the girls gleen from them (as other Epstein girls have said he always instructed them to extract info and tell him what they found out). All he really seems guilty of if it actually happened is having an eye for the ladies and showing naivety but he wasn't alone because when you are rich and powerful young girls who should be outside your league throw themselves at them so it won't seem as unusual as it does to people outside that life

    Dodi Al Fayed and Diana's death is a bit Fishy but that's more at Mohammed Al Fayed end. He was the one that was using Cut and Shunt cars as the hotel VIP cars and was letting on-call drivers drink. The reason he won't shut up with the conspiracy theories is if he doesn't talk himself into believing them he will have to accept he shares a lot of blame

    The traits that people say make Harry look like James Hewitts are also traits common in the Spencer family. It's unlikely the institution would almost certainly know if he wasn't Charles's and they wouldn't be tip-toeing around cutting him off completely and removing his titles if he was.
     
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  13. Petrov

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    Believe me Fordy, I hate this government with a passion but I'm not prepared to blame them for something they are not responsible for. The statement issued by the government stated there was no obligation for any events to be cancelled, this is all on the FA, PL and EFL.
     
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  14. Tony Wilkinson

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    Of course they are, it's their job

    Of course they are, we/they are over it now

    Over reaction, life's too short..
     
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  15. Faithful Bantam

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    I honestly don’t see the point in cancelling the weekends games. In fact, I think people may want to use those games as a means of coming together and paying their respects via minutes silences etc. I just don’t really understand it.
     
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  16. Faithful Bantam

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    Completely agree. Not to mention that shopping centres, bars, restaurants, cinemas, theatres will all be open. But football games are called off? Its madness. If the games were on, you'd have seen mass tributes and a sense of people coming together. People have had an individual choice as to whether they attended or not. But as with most things nowadays, the freedom for people to decide for themselves what to do is being eroded.
     
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  17. Get Rid Of It

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    The daft thing is Football is being respectful this week-end,
    Then dis-respectful midweek,
    Then respectful again next week-end.

    You couldn't make this up,
    Except they just did.
     
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  18. Kevin1954

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    This is serious madness.
     
  19. Kevin1954

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    I am already. Life has to go on after one’s own personal reflection. Anything else feels like it’s being rammed down one’s throat. We all grieve in different ways but being told how to grieve and when is ludicrous. I’ll say no more as I don’t want to upset anyone.
     
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  20. WilsdenBantam

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    I totally understand the country in mourning the day she died, even day after and the funeral. But anything else is excessive in my view. She was a hard working woman who always met her responsibilities head on, she’d probably say herself the show must go on.

    Also poor Wilsden is working today, no 10 days mourning for myself. The show must go on!
     
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