What an OTT statement. Their players have injured a couple of our players over the last two seasons. So in my view they can suck it up!
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The pitch for me is yet another lame arse excuse this sort of shit has gone on for years now even with a decent playing surface.
We are fooking mentally weak the end no doubt we will turn up Saturday and no doubt turn up when the seasons all but over.
Honestly please dont get suckered in by this shit anymore these lot aint worth wasting Saturday afternoons on anymore they simply dont care and the other night proved that no fooking leaders no nothing.Kopendin1964, Salty, Fordy117 and 2 others like this. -
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I think we need to move on from this and forget about it as conversations are going round in circles. We know that there were issues with installation in the summer in terms of timings and a broken sprinkler system. Added to that this will be most likely one of the wettest seasons of all time coinciding with bad timings of games like the Liverpool and Stockport game which seem to have done the damage and once that damage was done there was no reversing it.
It's also being made out like this is a long term issue when really this season is a one off. Since we've done the big work on the pitch after the 19/20 season the pitch has looked very good even at the end of the season.
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What we all moaning about
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I saw that in the Supporters Board Meeting Minutes that works will be taking place over the summer for the pitch, which got me thinking would be it better if they knew they didn’t have a pre season fixture to have everything completed by.
If the answer to my question is no then why not simply say that and maybe give some context as to why it wouldn’t be beneficial?WilsdenBantam, Kopendin1964, bantamdave41 and 2 others like this. -
It's like an old knackered car
Do you keep throwing money at it or cut your losses and try get something newer
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There are products out there.
There seems to be a ‘no can do’ mentality! Which frankly is very surprising.
A full size football pitch can easily be covered using Matchsaver air roller covers. Each air roller covers 16m x 72m. The inflatable air rollers are used to deploy the covers across the football pitch sideline to sideline. An air blower is used to inflate the rollers. https://matchsaver.com/matchsaver-football-pitch-covers/air-roller-pitch-protection-covers-for-football/#:~:text=A%20full%20size%20football%20pitch,used%20to%20inflate%20the%20rollers.
You meet up with them, discuss the issues about VP, storage etc.
Watch this video. Shocking really!
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I would say that my old boss would comment, ‘if there is a problem, there will be a solution out there, go and find it and come back to me’!
A lot of his post I personally agree with. I understand the local climate issues, however there are a number of other clubs operating in or next to the Pennine chain. Actually the Lancashire side tends to have greater rainfall!
I have never said introduce 3,4,5 G pitches. I also accept the arguments about the turf.
However the introduction of new and improved covers surely needs to be considered. The evidence clearly demonstrates that the current system is prone to fail.
There will be a reason the Manchester City covers were no longer of use to them. If they are say over 10 years old, then wear and tear, plus technology has moved on.
The ‘do nothing’, it can’t be fixed approach is not acceptable. Wouldn’t last two minutes on a certain well known TV programme!vladimir, trevor, Onside and 1 other person like this. -
Not a chance in hell. Any spare cash I have is far too hard earned to donate to this particular causebantamdave41, bantamlad92, bailiff bridge bantam and 1 other person like this. -
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I like the original post from @Bigrod and thank you to @wetherbywhaler for his explanation.
I'm interested in the science behind it as much as anything and I think, like @Stafford Bantam that different solutions are needed at different times and I feel what is lacking is some kind of cover that prevents heavy rain, day after day from getting to the pitch surface. It would need drainage to get the water out of the ground. There's times that we need rain covers, some times we need the covers we saw yesterday and some times nothing.
I suspect they'll be expensive, clearly, but to the point @wetherbywhaler makes - if Bradford is one of the wetest areas in the country then the pitch protection and covers needs a different solution to 95% of the rest of the country and that might unfortunately mean that it requires more/different investment as compared to Sutton or Blackpool or whoever where the climate is different. We can't say "oh it's the climate" and then just do the same as everyone else because then we'll definitely not solve the unique problems of our location.Inspector, Kevin1954, Stafford Bantam and 1 other person like this. -
All in all, it's bound together to form an impermeable layer, well according to real experts at the STRI! But nobody knows for sure what's there, how much is there or how thick it is. Amongst other things STRI suggested doing some kind of geophys survey to at least understand the scale of the problem but the cost of doing it was prohibitive according to ML at the time.
Lots of work has been done on the top surface over recent years including reseeding it several times, installing fibrasand to stabilise the grass surface, installing better drainage for the pitch surface and remedying some of the drainage problems created by the concrete foundations of the the current stands. But the fundamantal issues of the foundations of the pitch remain unresolved and when the ground is saturated, the water deep below the current surface level drainage has nowhere to go. Protective covers might help to some degree with avoiding the ground freezing or keeping some rain off of the pitch surface but even then, the rain has to go somewhere. Covers cannot deal with the fundamental problem. There isn't a viable long term surface solution which can overcome the problems deep below the pitch surface.Mal Content, Chris Withe, Rogered Tart and 1 other person like this. -
We have two drainage systems under the pitch, One is a deep system installed in the Premier league and drains in to the Midland road public drainage via channels under the midland road stand, The second is a top system where drainage channels are dug approx 1 metre deep at intervals across the pitch filled with drainage infill. This was done in 2018 with an assurance that if looked after then the pitch would not waterlog. Of course one of the problems with the pitch is in the past it was higher in the middle than the edges witch aided natura drainage off the pitch but nowadays the pitch is Korrowed each season which has levelled the playing surface which is good for football but not for drainage,
If we are to continue as a professional club and remain at VP then the best but not cheapest solution is to install a Desso Grandmaster pitch as Leeds and Hudders and most Premier League club have done to ensure the best surface [possibleBotswana Bantam, Bronco, Bigrod and 1 other person like this. -
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This map, from 1852, shows that, at that time, quarrying was taking place all around the site.
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From Facebook, the pitch is looking a lot dryer than 48 hours ago and should be fine for tomorrow.
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Yet, rewind back to December when it was clear the pitch wouldn’t withstand heavy rainfall and the Salford game was postponed, there were fans on here defending it saying we can’t help the rain.
No we can’t, but it rains everywhere else too in the UK.
We won’t attract good footballers in the summer if they know what the pitch will be like through the winter.
We need to know what the club intends to do about it?bailiff bridge bantam, Rogered Tart, Mal Content and 1 other person like this.
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