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Smoke Bombs - Who in their right minds would glorify this?

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Keefly Bantam, Dec 26, 2018.

  1. Idlebantam

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    You are probably the one on Cows Arse then mocking insensitive City fans linking smoke bombs to the fire.

    Really winds me up when younger fans say this, the same young fans who were not even born to witness what some of us on here did.

    There is no reason or justification for City fans to witness smoke inside a football ground ever again.

    P.S. I'm not part of some wishy washy leftie PC Brigade, as you put it, far from it actually
     
  2. Nottsy

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    There's no mocking on my part.

    Maybe you should sign up and post if you've got a problem with something written on there.
     
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  3. Mike Hunt

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    Some people like them, some don’t. Doesn’t mean either are wrong, but life’s a lot easier if you accept some people have a different view point and move on. FWIW I think some of our fans are a bit quick to link things to 1985, but if kids are being hit by smoke bombs that are being thrown, then the people doing it need to think about it whether what they are doing is right.

    In this instance either EFL or individual club rules, I can’t be arsed to find out which, prevent some bombs from being used in a ground. That’s it. Argue with the club and the EFL, not other fans.
     
  4. Nottsy

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    It’s the linking with the fire that’s annoying me. I have absolutely no problem with them being banned.
     
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  5. Idlebantam

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    Witnessing a family house fire when I was 4 years old and being at VP that horrific day in 1985, I have, unfortunately, a problem with smoke and fires, so I will stand by my stance.
     
  6. Dennis

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    It's not just that they are banned under the EFL and the club's own ground regulations, the use of them in football grounds is simply illegal for very good reasons! They are dangerous and can cause serious damage if thrown at another person. Yes, it's a small group of idiots who think it's fun or somehow adds to the atmosphere to set these off in an enclosed area and are then aided and encouraged by their equally moronic mates. Most of the smokes burn at over 200 degrees C and will cause serious injuries if you're hit by one. Even those which are designed for internal use (and only available to over 18's from specialist, licensed suppliers) burn at scalding temperatures. And I doubt it's these which are being bought illegally.

    In my mind, nobody should be condoning these things and not necessarily because of our own history. They're dangerous to all of us and that's the reason why they're banned in football grounds. If the moronic idiots can't be trusted, it's down to the clubs to improve their stewarding as Barnsley appear to be doing today.
     
  7. Nottsy

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    Then you have my absolute sympathies. Honestly.

    But, I still don’t think anyone is trying to be disrespectful by using a pyro, they’re just being stupid.
     
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  8. Idlebantam

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    Thank you
     
  9. Damo

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    Are you Donald Trump in disguise. You have been given a number of rationale arguments and explanations which you are refusing to accept or don’t understand. Either you are very stubborn and see agreeing as backing down or you are a bit simple which I’m sure you’re not. Not sure why its annoying you so much? I might not fully understand how electricity is made but that doesn’t prevent my light going on when I flick the switch. Here’s a link.
    https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-are-ptsd-triggers

    https://www.verywellmind.com/panic-disorder-and-ptsd-2584231

    Not sure how you can’t fathom that being sat in a crowd and seeing smoke drifting across might act as a trigger. You could say well don’t attend football matches then as smoke and flares will always occur. However that’s not the case is it as they are banned. Therefore ignoring the fact that they can cause real injuries, they may be particularly sensitive to a group of our fans.

    There I’ve led you to the water. I can’t force you to drink.
     
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  10. Pink Dolphin

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    It's not just the pubescent shower throwing the smoke bombs. It's the overlords in their 50's pulling the strings.
     
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  11. Bigrod

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    I agree. The Football League and the Law have their view on the matter and have passed rules and legislation. The information in respect of health issues are apparent, and throwing these devices around is yet another factor.
    I note your linking of this issue to Poppy Wearers. Personally I always buy a Poppy, having had relatives killed and family wounded. Additionally our country and freedoms would not be what they were if people had not made immense sacrifices. It would be wholly inappropriate to link Smoke Bombs to that issue, I never expect to see someone ‘let off’ one of those devices at a Remembrance Day Service!
     
  12. Nottsy

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    I said poppy fascists, not poppy wearers. Don’t put words in my mouth, ta. You’re just proving my point.
     
  13. Nottsy

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    I understand PTSD and triggers more than most, but I certainly don’t want to go into that. But thanks for the education.
     
  14. How

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    Do you use the daily mail as your inspiration?
     
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  15. Nottsy

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    No.
     
  16. cjunluck

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    It's a bit of smoke, people are losing their marbles over it
     
  17. bantam65

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    Harmless fun hey ? Screenshot_20190112-100130_Chrome.jpg Screenshot_20190112-095813_Google.jpg
     
  18. Idlebantam

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    I wonder how you would react if one hit you or your child, if you are mature enough to have one, I would hazard a guess you wouldn't be very happy with the idiot that threw it
     
  19. JonButterfield

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    If it crosses your mind that 'smoke looks good', you're probably simple.

    Must be simpler still if you go to the trouble of actually creating smoke thinking it looks good. Proper tinpot, YouTube generation showing us up.

    A coordinated display that actually looks effective or impressive takes more than a banding of barely pubescent teens huddled in one small area.

    What is the point?
     
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    Moddings gone to shit since you backed the wrong horse.
     
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